frames or not (was Re: CSS2: what is the container of everything ?

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, dorayme wrote:
LC wrote:

By the way, I'm pretty sure I could achieve what I want with a real
frameset. I used framed documents with no restrictions, but I see that
somebody prefers to avoid them (has this preference a real jsutification
?)

Btw, yes, it has real justification.

Could you enlighten me on what it is nowadays ? I believed a justification in the PAST was that some OLD browsers won't support them.

I personally find frames useful (e.g. in document manuals produced by both Rtf2Html and Latex2Html to provide a navigable content pane), and they've never disturbed me. While I get disturbed by documents who impose a fixed width, which might not match my current viewport (*).
Otherwise said, I'm not disturbed at all by vertical scrollbars, but I'm quite disturbed by horizontal ones.

(*) my personal preference in the past was to keep the browser window rather small (say 95% the height and 60% the width of the screen, which is a 1280x1024). Nowadays I keep it a bit wider (say 1100x1024) to have a larger tab bar with many tabs, but still can see something hidden under the browser. However I have a window manager arrangement which causes popup windows to use the older "tall and narrow" size, and that sometimes is smaller than the document imposed width.

BTW in the past I ran a survey through our organization and found that most people prefer a full screen arrangement (for curiosity see
http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/INAF/Browser-survey/ )


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