Re: Alternative to CMS Encore Pro and CityDesk using the power of Visual Web Developer

On Mar 21, 2:56 am, "Andy Dingley" <ding...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You said "convert to static", not "convert from static".

Well since ActiveConverter converts Visual Web Developer projects.

It's one way to do it, I suppose. But if it accessed the site through
HTTP, rather than as source, then it would work for any site
implementation technology.

Yes the end result of converting the site with ActiveConverter could
work with any technology.


I don't often want to convert sites that were written with recent
technologies. I chose that technology, I'm presumably quite happy to
keep using it. What I _do_ have a need to convert though are legacy
sites using an ancient, undocumented and unsupportable mess of
something obsolete, like CGI Perl or ColdFusion. Scraping these from
outside the existing web server (before the wheels finally fall off
it) is useful.

It's also more reliable, as it's insensitive to subtleties of the
server environment. Why try to re-create the server's process in
generating the page results, if you can simply have the server do it
for you yourself? It's not easy to re-create the server task to begin
with, it's very hard to do it reliably and accurately, for all
possible servers with all possible variations in local configurations.

The behind ActiveConverter is that the server is not going to be
generating the page results. They will be already generated.

Of course not. But your posting was posting misleading to people with
type #3 sites.

Like I said earlier, I did not mean to mislead people to think they
could create type #3 sites with ActiveConverter and not need any
server side technology. This was never my purpose, not sure how you
thought it was what I was trying to do. I mean I mention that the end
result websites are static, type #3 are obviously not static websites.


From experince I know that updating and maintaining a purely static
website can very annoying and tedious if trying to maintain or update
the look to pages already created.

A smarter use of CSS fixes a great deal of this.

Yes I know that smarter use of CSS helps a lot when changing or
updating the look of a website. But I was just using the look of a
website as an example, there are many more things. Only limitation is
what you can think and design. Now it would require you to learn the
easy to learn language of C# or VB to do anything complex.

Another example of what you could do would be the famous or should I
say infamous current page menu item on a menu. Where you can see where
you are on a website by looking at the website's menu. I am sure you
know what I am talking about. For example the menu is normally white
background with black text but lets say you are on the "Contact Us"
page, the menu item that represents the link to the "Contact Us" page
could have a black background with white text. This can be setup to
automatically happen for each page with a little programming in VB or
C#.

The invalidities in your site aren't major. However the _nature_ of
some of them (incorrect character encoding of UTF-8 characters,
omission of entity encoding for & characters in URLs, and that old
chestnut <meta /> in a HTML document) are such that they make me
thoroughly distrust whatever process was used to make it. The badly
nested <h1> is a gross error, but it's an understandable manual typo
and isn't likely to recur. A process that doesn't understand encoding
is a broken process - it's likely to repeat the same error when I use
it to make my own site.

The encoding is probably my fault. I do not understand what you mean
when talking about the meta tag, I thought it is what determines the
encoding of the webpage, maybe I am understanding how to use it. I do
see what you are talking about the H1 tag. I will try to fix that,
thanks for pointing it out! I do not have time to fix it right now but
I will probably get to it this weekend.

I do not think that judging my program and Visual Web Developer is
very objective if you are judging it by my poor website coding skills,
but it is up to you. I am sure that you could probably do better.
Remember that Visual Web Developer and ActiveConverter are just tools,
if put in the right hands they can do wonders. And hopefully when put
in not as experienced hands they can improve the quality of the
creation.

By the way whats stopping you from trying my program if you have not
already? I hope it is not my website or something I said that might
have offended you. If you want to try my program for free please do
not hesitate to download the free lite version. A link to the lite
version has already been posted in an earlier post. If you for some
reason can not find it, you can alwasy go to www.activeconverter.com
and browse to the download page by clicking Download on the menu bar.

Once again, thanks for replying to my post.

.

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