Re: Z-WAVE question (Go Insteon!)



Insteon calls it a "mesh network" of PLC and RF. In fact, the RF is
between bridges only. The idea is that you can add a bridge to a
"trouble area" to deliver the signal from a point closer to the module
if necessary. It works!


Jack,

I wasn't aware that ELK even supported Insteon. I don't see any
reference to it in their documentation. Since you sell it, maybe you
can clarify a point. The description indicates it is a dual approach
system, in that all signals are sent via both RF and PL paths, thus
providing much greater reliability. I have read reports since, that
indicate only the signal bridge between the two phases of the power
line is done via RF, and that the actual commands within each of these
phases is done only via the PL signal. True?

Thanks
Dennis

Jack Edin wrote:
I believe the better method might have been Insteon!

I am biased, as I sell Insteon...

I believe that when you change a switch's state, that information is
broadcast across the Insteon network.

As such the Elk M1 will be able to hear this, and react - as
programmed, etc.

I've asked Elk to help me write a set of rules, for their M1
control, to take advantage of this very communication. Here is what
I have in mind:

===================
An Insteon (on/off) switch is installed on a bathroom fan...

You're leaving the room...

Let's say you press the fan's on once. It is locally connected to the
load, so the fan'll come on. Nothing special.

The signal IS sent across the Insteon network that this switch is
now in the ON position...

M1 hears it, and sets a counter...

Now say you were to press ON a second time within 5 seconds...

I want the M1 to adjust it's counter, and say "Five minutes"...

Press again, within the allowed period and it ups the timer and
announces "10..."

Again: "20", "30", "45", "60", "Normal"

If at any time OFF is pressed, the fan goes off... The whole process
is reset...

So if it's just a little stinky, 5 or 10 minutes oughta do it...
Take a steamy shower, and maybe you want an hour...
====================

This would not be possible without Insteon's network communications.

Note: At this time whenever an Insteon switch is dimmed locally, that
status is not communicated. On and Off are, however.

As an early adopter of Insteon I know I'll have to wait for some new
products to do everything I'll want, but these things are coming.
Some very soon. I expect half a dozen new Insteon products in the
next six months, the first will probably arrive in three...

And unlike X10 the more Insteon devices you have, the getter the
network. Every device acts as a repeater.

I hope this helps!

Jack
:)


Frank Olson wrote:

You bring up an interesting point, Dennis. We recently completed an
installation where the customer (retired senior airline pilot)
wanted a good deal more "bang" for his "buck". He wanted to know
status of practically everything in his house. This entailed
wiring relays in parallel to a number of lighting circuits
controlled by X-10 switches. This gives him accurate and up to the
minute status on a specific partition display on his alarm system
keypads, as well as on custom graphic displays located in his
bedroom and office. You could very easily adapt this to any
partitionable hybrid (combination wired/wireless) security system
out there. We installed GRI PB-2020's in the door frames to
monitor the status of all the dead-bolts as well. It was a very
interesting project, all-in-all.

Frank Olson
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com


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