Re: Off Topic - but Important



"Mark Dunakin" <md@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:G02gg.5038$AB3.2869@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| CWCunningham wrote:
|
| >I wish it weren't real, but it's here and now and the implications are
serious.
| >
| >
| Actually, for me, my concerns were more with the facts that these search
| engine companies,
| and I mean Google and Yahoo, are also the same people who helped the
| Chinese government
| arrest people who used these search type engines to find out REAL things
| going on in their
| world and the rest, and these search engine jerk offs turned these
| people in!!!
|
In my initial post I suggested google as an example of a ripe peach that big
money would like to juice, and though I think they are likely one of the tasty
targets of this legislation, they were hust an easy example. It may have been
more accurate to say that Newtek's website might be made to disappear in favor
of Autodesk, because deep pockets will be able to negotiate partnerships and
shut out competitors. But even at that ... replace Newtek with any website ...
YOUR website!

This is not about any website, it's about the difference between the internet as
you know it, vs an internet which is moderated by the same people who already
moderate your newspapers and your TV programming. The internet today was
designed by America and paid for ny the US taxpayers. The same media
conglomerates that control all other media *besides* the internet are trying to
take literal content control over the internet.

If you watched today's NOW on PBS, you will have caught a good in depth story of
the issue, though it comes late in the game since the vote will be next week. If
you watched, you heard one of the lobbyists for the telecom industry claim that
there are no intentions to change anything, but in order to take that at face
value, you have to believe that they're spending millions in trying to get a law
passed that allows them to profit from internet users, but it's all just for
fun, and they have no intention of actually profiting from this adventure.

| How dare they and where do they get off pulling stunts like that!!!
| No one seems to care, because it didn't happen to THEM and it's just
| stuff that
| people expect to happen in so called, "other" countries, so it doesn't
| affect them.
| If people think they'll only screw over other countries, then that's
| being a bit naive,
| as soon enough you can be on the target for something someday too, when
| ever
| ANY government decides to ask said companies for a list of their users
| and such.
|
Kinda like the US government did ... and google refused.

| Kinda like what's going on now with them requesting (I hear now) in the
| trillions of fone calls from regular Americans.
| Using terrorism as an excuse, like they do with everything now a days LOL
| (and yes, though I am a republican, I never voted for this sort of thing)
|
| Umm,,, anyway, back to your thread here, I basically feel like we, the
| average user, has no real control over
| these things and that's the way it is and there's never anything anyone
| can do about it, other then to let the
| crackers and hackers have things their way and create their own tools
| for searching and then everyone
| goes to those, as no one is going to PAY for some crappy search engine,
| I know I wouldn't.
| Especially not for idiots who turn in people to communist police, just
| for wanting to be informed!!!
| So, my point being, that good old capitalism, will win out in the long
| run, eventually.
| Meaning, if someone else can offer the same things for free, and still
| make money at it,
| like it currently is setup, then that will win out over the paid versions.
|
| But this statement here, kinda sums it all up.
| Meaning, trying to get your representatives to do anything for you is a
| joke:
|
| I just signed the petition and was (un)fortunate enough to have a
| representative on the comittee currently in a position to stop this grab for
| control. (Unfortunately, the form letter I got in response suggests he's
leaning
| towards giving the lobbyists what they want).
|
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
| And now a days, voting is pretty much useless, because no sooner do the
| voters
| make their voice heard and vote on something, that someone else comes in
| and
| claims it's illegal and some court overturns the voter's votes anyway LOL
| At least that's how it always is here in California and especially in
| San Diego.
|
Don't get me started ... read this and weep:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

| And no, I'm not some conspiracy type person LOL
| I just know how things usually work out for the regular schmoe.
| And what generally ends up happening when people try to force things on
| them.
| In this country at least, it usually doesn't work, though it is more and
| more, because
| of complacent people who think bad things will never happen to them,
| personally LOL
|
Well I understand what you're saying, and I share your skepticism, but like it
or not, this is *supposed* to be a government of, by and for the people, and
giving up in hopelessness is exactly what big money wants you to do. We may just
have the slightest influence on how our laws are created, and once we give that
up ... well you see how things are going.

Next week the congress votes ... get involved, or live with the feeling that
maybe you could have made a difference.

One way or the other ... Howdy Mark! Good to talk with you ... caught your
recent picture award, very nice work!

--
CWC
============================
It's not that nice guys finish last,
They have a whole different notion
where the finish line is.
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