Re: FIR Filter limitation (or not?)




"rover8898" <rover8898@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1133216698.967625.187630@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hello everyone,
>
> OK. So I got the point that the response of a digital filter just
> repeats itself at a period of Fs. Also it seems that a digital signal
> has only frequency components from -Fs/2 to +Fs/2. If I undestood
> correctly, this is because all signals when digitized, are, in the
> frequency domain a series of the frequency spectrum of the undigitized
> signal interspaced at intervals of Fs. Depending on the bandwidth of
> the undigitized signal and the Fs, absence or presence of aliasing will
> be determined.
>
> So basically, if aliasing occurs, the *digital signal* (-Fs/2 to +Fs/2)
> will have frequency components of the original signal that are above
> Fs/2. That is where those unwanted "high frequencies" end up; they
> double back in the relevant [-Fs/2 to +Fs/2] frequency range if there
> is aliasing .If there isn't any aliasing, it implies that the input
> signal was already properly cleaned up. And if the input signal
> contains frequencies components up to Fbw, and we decide to sample the
> input signal at Fbw/10 because 95% of the relevant signal lies under
> Fbw/30, we would be commiting a huge no-no for the frequency components
> from [Fbw/20 to Fbw] will fold back and corrupt the retrieved data,
> despite these components being quite weak in strength.Rigth ?
>
> A low pass digital FIR filter whose [Fpassband=0.45*Fs and
> Fstopband=0.47*Fs] serves no practical purpose if its purpose for being
> is to attenuate high frequencies. Right?
> It will supress only 6-10% of the input frequencies (depending on the
> transitions bands). In other words:
> the [0-0.45 0.55-1.45 1.55-2.45 2.55-3.45....]*Fs frequencies of the
> undigitized input signal will pass unhindered through the digital
> lowpass FIR filter. It certaintly not a viable antialiasing filter.
> Rigth?
>
> -Roger

Right. Good study. The antialiasing filtering needs to be done
pre-sampling. If you're doing sample rate conversion, then you could well
*also* need to do antialiasing filtering in the discrete time world - and
*there* you use digital filters.

Fred


.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: FIR Filter limitation (or not?)
    ... So I got the point that the response of a digital filter just ... correctly, this is because all signals when digitized, are, in the ... the undigitized signal and the Fs, absence or presence of aliasing will ... we would be commiting a huge no-no for the frequency components ...
    (comp.dsp)
  • Re: Neural netss (was Re: death of the mind.)
    ... its 30+ visual areas and 1100+ feedforward and feedback pathways, ... This whole thing makes sense, regards the cortex, if you think about ... feedback signals from the other 29 areas, ... they filter and perform the basic ...
    (sci.cognitive)
  • Re: Superhet receiver and image frequency
    ... Here I'd like to know why the RF circuit cannot filter the ssignal ... using bandwidth of BT, instead of delegate this task to IF circuit. ... so if you want to use one in a tunable radio it has to go in the ... These two signals will be passed from RF to Mixer because I'm supposing ...
    (comp.dsp)
  • Re: OT: (very) Vinyl 78s value
    ... A lot of wartime carbon stick resistors were poor tolerance and tended ... of rumble being generated by the filter itself. ... But, erm, how does this work without totally buggering up the audio ... rejection at 45 Kc/s and 12dB per octave rejection of any other signals ...
    (uk.comp.sys.mac)
  • Re: Spectrum analyzer blind spots
    ... trouble looking at the signals in detail. ... and narrow filter to scan a whole range of frequencies... ... analyze on a swept-frequency analyzer. ... spread spectrum energy should make it through the bandpass filter. ...
    (sci.electronics.design)