Re: TRM - Morbidity has set in, or not?



Keith H Duggar wrote:

Keith H Duggar wrote:

From the summary of your posting above, do you not see
how some have come to see you as "self-aggrandizing"?

If not, allow me to suggest one simple technique for you
to experiment with. The next time you post, read over
the draft and try to remove all occurrences of the word
"I", not in a trivial fashion of course, but rather with
introspection.


dawn wrote:

[I see that everything I wrote here does not take into
account your suggestion ... I do not know how to express
an opinion as if were the truth, as others do, and, in
fact, have made it a policy to try to ensure the reader
can tell the difference, but I will research that STYLE
of writing before I post again.
...
Stating opinions as absolutes is arrogant and misleading.
Does that sentence work? I trust you can see the humor in
using that statement to give this a spin. With my own
STYLE, I would have said "It seems to me that stating
opinions as absolutes is arrogant and misleading." BB
even makes his statements about me, never having met me,
as if they were the truth, rather than simply his opinion,
flawed as it may be. I recognize there are some who
prefer that STYLE of writing and will give it a spin when
I engage the subject matter again. If I find the technique
too hard to master or am too OFFENDED by it myself, I will
simply chat with those who are willing to engage in the
dialogue while letting me be me.


[emphasis added - KHD]

Dear Dawn,

Noting your repeated use of STYLE and the general content of
your message I believe you have missed my point. The
suggestion was not to follow a particular grammatical
style. Transforming sentences from one parse tree to another
falls under "trivial" editing "fashion" warned against. It
is not a prohibition of "I" or any other syntax. Repeated
use of "I" is simply sometimes a _signal_.

The _key_ to the suggestion was _introspection_. In other
words I'm suggesting one (as in one of many) simple mechanic
that helps to encourage a style of _thinking_ (not writing).
Differences in thinking of course will translate into
differences in communication. Thus since the suggestion was
for a method of introspection when communicating (and not a
grammatical style) you cannot be OFFENDED by the method
except to the extent that your thoughts offend yourself.

For example, you might ask yourself "What is the purpose of
these statements? What is my motivation? What is my goal?"

1) I took several years of stones ...
I recognize I'm a heretic ...

2) I also know what happens to heretics ...

3) I might even retract ...
I have no disagreement with the mathematics ...
I disagree with some [standard] choices ...
I have not ... prove[n] my hunches ...

4) I have enough experience with budgets ...

5) I have formed opinions ...
I write about that which interests me ...
I continue my search, in spite of [you]

6) I sit in my oldest daughter and her husband's
comfortable, happy, recently-built home

7) I'm online to look up Phi Beta Kappa ...
I understand the honor my youngest is receiving ...
her graduation this weekend ...

8) I have at least done some things right ... and

9) given his approach ... [FP] seems a sad sort
I wonder if [you] have happy lives ...
I worry about [Fabian Pascal]
I worry about Bob Badour too]

0) -- a mom

For my part I found them to be

1) appeal to pity, appeal to authority (in this case the
common knowledge that many heretics were right, Galileo
for example)

2) faulty generalization, guilt by association, poisoning
the well

In other words you want readers to feel sorry for you, to
believe that you are somehow special and revolutionary
and anyone who opposes you is a dogmatist, an inquisitor.

3) proof by assertion, it remains to be seen whether you can
accept reasoned arguments and change your beliefs.

Check out the threads around here from three years ago. Nothing remains to be seen on that score.


-- Keith --

PS. Congratulations to your family. And to anyone out there
who happens to drive an FUV, please consider a more fuel
efficient lifestyle. Our culture of consumption is a very
bad thing.

I disagree. The sooner consumption forces us to find cheap domestic energy sources the better.
.



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