Re: Post / Zip Code
- From: "Peter McMurray" <excalibur21@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:19:13 GMT
Hi
I think the main issue is that the NOT WITH version had been the official
Pick method for nigh on 20 years previous and some clown went and changed
it. leaving programmers wondering why a lot of their Procs were going wrong
and users bewildered as to why their ENGLISH queries were failing. Since
another 20 years have now gone by people have got used to WITH NOT despite
the fact that it may be mathematically correct but it is not natural ENGLISH
which is what the language was designed to be. I must admit that I am
bewildered as to how Dick ever managed to register ENGLISH as a trade
name/mark or whatever.
As for WITH NO this is the first time I have ever heard of it however I find
that it is documented as being equivalent to # or ne '' or not.
Unfortunately I no longer have my early Reality manuals so I assume that it
was always there just never used by anyone I worked with.
Peter McMurray
"Chandru Murthi" <cmurth_xyz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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uv gives syntax error on NOT WITH also
tho' i suppose WITH NO[T] makes more sense
Chandru
"Peter McMurray" <excalibur21@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Chandru
:select ssdata not with invoice
[4] syntax error
:select ssdata with not invoice
[404] 33120 items selected out of 80657 items.
end:which
System Release Information
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D3 Release Version 7.4.4.NT
Implementation. . . . . . NT
Does that answer your question. It caused no end of trouble when it came
out. Now I just explain to any confused users that ask that some
programmers are pedantic idiots.
Peter McMurray
"Chandru Murthi" <cmurth_xyz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Of which system do you speak of? NOT WITH should be identical to WITH
NOT, but then, I don't keep up with trends after 1980.
Chandru
"Peter McMurray" <excalibur21@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have a horrible suspicion that the person that changed the syntax of
the English/Access/Recall statement from "NOT WITH" to "WITH NOT" around
the time of Open Architecture/Advanced Pick has been let loose as a
teacher. As most of these issues fall into the category of pedantic
claptrap with no thought for the user.
Peter McMurray
"Kevin Powick" <kpowick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jan 27, 3:38 pm, "Chandru Murthi" <cmurth_xyz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Maybe a certain level of common sense (say, above zero) disqualifies
one as a programmer.
Common sense isn't actually all that common.
--
Kevin Powick
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