Re: OpenQM vs. Everything Else


Tom deL wrote:
Hi Dawn,

I don't think it is FUD. I think it features, or more specifically,
packaging (which is a feature).

Understood. In fact "way back when" RedHat had really spiffy (literal)
packaging for their CD's, manuals and such. I remember even seeing
their boxed sets at Staples at one time. Perhaps one of the reasons for
its popularity over other distros?

One of my prejudices is in thinking that people look beyond the
surface.

The surface is integral. I don't like the distinction between form and
content that makes it sound like one has substance and the other
doesn't.

"Form follows function - that has been misunderstood. Form and
function should be one, joined in a spiritual union." Frank Lloyd
Wright

My husband got this "great deal" on a dvd burner a while back (not to
mention his pre-ipod mp3 player). It is great that he wants to use
them, but I don't. I talked him into a TiVo and I love it! This story
is relevant to Linux, I suspect.

Because of this I tend to forget how important the perceptions
of value provided by the marketing dept. are to most folks.

You are belittling it by relegating it all to marketing, methinks.

Yes. I've been in IT for more than a quarter of a century and have

Oh? I thought you said that you weren't a greybeard? <g>

Now you are confusing public and private conversations, Tom :-)

surely loaded OS's (even modified Primos when it was written in
Fortran), but only if I don't have a good alternative. If an OS needs
to be loaded or needs an upgrade in our family, it is the Rev. Dr. who
does that. Perhaps that makes me a wimp, but I believe in division of
labor.

One shouldn't need to know what makes an automobile work in order to
drive one, eh?

You got it. On the other hand, I can grep, ls, and cd my way around
unix if I want. It isn't just a matter of what I know or do not know,
but how I enjoy spending my days. I know that I could research which
of the many distros to load and how to do it. I have a "spare" box
sitting here with Windows XP on it now and every once in a while I
think about putting linux on it, but it doesn't sound like fun yet.

but one has to do with the fact that if I get a computer from Best Buy,
it isn't running linux, and, if it were, my Adobe products woudn't
work.

Oh my, yes! The sky would *surely* fall if you tried to run an Adobe
product on a Linux box. <g>
http://openqm.blackflute.com/images/linux-adobe.png

Cool. The Adobe Creative Suite that I have on disk doesn't suggest I
can load it on linux,

They most likely wouldn't suggest that unless (until?) OS X support
began to spill over into the mainstream Linux platforms.

so perhaps some dollars would be involved, but if I get serious, I'll google
around a bit more.

Your choice of no $$$ or very little $$$ and don't waste too much time
with Google. You might want to start here:
http://www.winehq.com/

Wine is the GPL portion of a dual licensed (a. la. openQM and mySQL)
package. To keep the FUD and BS to a minimum, it is probably more
difficult to install and configure properly than is Linux although
there are a couple of helper programs that make it easier.

And when I can parse and understand that fully...

With that said, I have been able to use some programs that I would
never have expected to work: Windows-only proprietary admin software
for some of the older stuff that makes our WISP network go; raw socket
thingies that one would expect to fall flat on its face.

I have a few words that trip my buttons (OK, more than a few),
including "RS-232" and "socket" which are my cues in a meeting that it
is time for me to delegate and run.

As an aside, most of the more modern routers and such use browser based
software (or ssh based command line config) and so are platform
independent.

While I haven't used it, I have heard and read glowing reports about
the commercial package called "CrossOver Office". Seems that it more
easily supports a wider range of software - and comes with commercial
support:
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/

And it's only seventy bucks (fifty bucks for those of you in academia).

Seriously, if anyone wishes to learn about realities without all of the
FUD and BS I am more than willing to offer whatever assistance I may.

FUD and BS can be fun too, but thanks--at some point we'll chat.

Well, I will see if I can come up with some for you on such short
notice. Maybe I can find someone with excess from whom to borrow? <g>

Tony's at Spectrum, I suspect, so let me know if you want some FUD, BS,
or general spin on any topic and I'll try to come through. Cheers!
--dawn

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