Re: compilers

I'm after a code based .Net interface... read/write/call only.. and named
common support as well - unfortunately the named common is a big issue to me
due to the design of the original software (which carrires round a huge
common block that is initialised on startup...

Regards

Simon
"Glen B" <dfdfg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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No bud, I haven't sorry. I got all hung up on the licensing issues
with QM/OpenQM and never installed the software. (I regret this
situation but since I have absolutely no one asking me for services
related to OpenQM, I also have no reason to look into it further.) I

Do you think you'd be interested in OO QMBASIC?
I wish you would join the Google group and participate in the discussions.
To be honest, there is no license issue unless you want a free copy of an
MV database just to make money off of it. You can download, use, and
modify OpenQM/Linux for free. You just can't sell any product with it,
without releasing your product's source code to be GPL compliant. That's
really not a bad trade-off. If a client won't pay for the database, but
they are willing to pay a little extra for application source, then you
may be able to ease your product into more niches and gain market. Just
don't expect any support from LB. :) You don't have to submit any content
back to LB, but just don't expect to get your specific mods into the
commercial version. When people start calling and wanting vendor supported
copies of "your database", then you'll be outta luck and you will tick off
a lot of companies! Just like we've agreed and discussed before, this kind
of development is a powerful two-way street. I forsee some great potential
coming from this GPL project, as long as skilled developers such as
yourself stop getting tweaked at the fact that it's not 100% free (as in
beer). Start seeing the potential impact that this kind of development can
have on our market. I would have expected that you, of all developers,
would already be actively on-board. IBM is working its way to direct
community based developer guidance, with the U2 users group. That's been
in-place with QM and now it's in-place with OpenQM, as long as you want to
be involved. Everyone has been complaining about how no one will listen to
what they need, and now that someone _is_ actively listening in an OSS
sense, skilled developers are still ignoring it. I'm realistically stuck
with D3. I doubt that I will ever be able to migrate the company to QM or
OpenQM. Maybe that will change as more development happens. Regardless,
that's not preventing me from participating in U2-users projects and
OpenQM development. I may not be involved heavily all of the time, but
volunteers aren't expected to be.

looked at QM.NET when it was first announced, and I believe (again,
faded memory here) since it looked like just a wrapper around some COM
component I blew it off. There was a period of time when people were
calling anything .NET just for marketing value, and those who didn't
(still don't) know the difference get suckered into it. I'm not
saying anything was wrong with the implementation, I just get easily
frustrated with misrepresentation. If my first impressions were wrong
and this is now a 100% managed component I'll accept proper flogging.
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Is this the project you looked at?
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10255015

I only
need the ability for basic read/write and subroutine calls on the server
with persistance of common block between calls.. I don't mind paying for
product - I don't expect it for free. It's the whole solution that is
important.. It may help to know that I use jRCS at the moment to connect
to
jBASE.

You're not asking for much there. Speaking in general MV terms, a
persistent connection will hold your common, and really you can wrap
your read/write in BASIC, so all you need is the ability to call a
single proggie. I've setup one interface to do just that, and the
BASIC side just has a big CASE statement that parses requests and
sends them off to the right subs to handle them. This is what other
products do too, so it's at least a tried and accepted approach. You
can do this on your own and don't need to buy anything - provided you
can work out that one pipe to the back-end. If you want a more
full-featured .NET API then I'll pass your request on to BlueFinity
and we'll see if there is something they can do.


You are correct that my server access (read/writes and databasic calls)
are
all in a single library so it's reasonably easy for me to port between
libraries.

Ibid - you have it easy. QM.NET should do it for you (IIRC) and if it
doesn't you might even want to wrap calls through Coyote - which
sounds reasonable if I understand what they're doing over there
correctly.


That depends if you want an XML web based .NET interface or a code based
.NET interface. The project that Manny put together produces a .NET DLL
that you can use from any .NET development language. It uses the QMClient
interface, which can connect locally via direct C calls or remotely via
TCP over the QMNET layer(not QM.NET). I don't have VB.NET loaded on my
home PC right now or I'd play with it. I'll toy with it this week and give
you my take on it.

Glen



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