Re: US car dealer software

Hi
I am fascinated by the reappearance of Univision and Viasystems.
I have only been in the MV business for 30 years, I am accused of reading
anything printed (by my partner), I attend Spectrum shows and Microsoft
shows and I had no idea that these people existed.
We had a good product called VIADUCT many years ago but it just vanished
sometime in the '80s so I had to rewrite the interface to Hostaccess which
has also had its share of woe so now I have to pop in a variation for
Accuterm. I am very glad that I write modular software.
RMIT in Melbourne used to actively promote MV through their courses as they
could teach a student more in one semester using MV than they could in four
semesters using alternatives. Dare I say their support from the MV
community was less than zip. In fact one major company banned their people
from attending and *** wasted his time and money rapping around Sydney
instead of visiting them.
Basically we have the best kept secret in the world because the companies
that should market it treat it all as "secret women's business" as they feel
they might lose a sale to a competitor so we end up doing all the legwork
and we are just too small individually.
Peter McMurray
"Simon Verona" <nomail@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Again, agreed...
>
> As an application vendor, I always sell solutions.. I doubt that any of my
> customers is really aware of what jBASE is (except for the odd maintenance
> invoice they receive!).
>
> However, this doesn't enhance the case for a new developer using MV...
When
> was the last tv ad you saw for a MV product? How about Oracle? or DB2?
>
> Regards
> Simon
> "Joe" <nobody@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Simon Verona" <nomail@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> > news:43badb51$0$2682$ed2619ec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> >
> >> John
> >>
> >> Agreed... though you will find that most MV databases support all the
> >> technologies you descibe in some way or another "out of the box"....
> >>
> >> However, the problem is not MV products fighting each other for
> >> market-share... That is doom for all of them... Somehow, MV has to be
> >> marketed to the world at large...
> >>
> >> It's so difficult to find MV in use in the real world - if for example
> >> you did a sample of US car dealerships asking which database they use,
> >> I suspect a very small proportion of the 80%+ that do would actually
> >> be aware of the fact!!!
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Simon
> >
> > I'd venture to say that in the automotive vertical (and probably other
> > verticals as well), most of those users are more concerned with the
> > reputation of their vendor (i.e., R&R and ADP) then what database
> > they're using. Both R&R and ADP have been around for years and both
> > have products that have been proven to work well, so concerns about the
> > database might be secondary.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joe
>
>


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