Re: Startup puts a twist on PowerPC

Glen:

Thanks for your comments and confidence in the PowerPC. PowerPC is not
a pure 68K derivative. It is much more related to the IBM RT and its
RISC architecture.

As to the chances of the PowerPC instruction set, since PowerPC and
CELL are for all practical purpose the same architecture and have the
same instruction set, getting a significant market share. Remember old
Thomas Watson, the IBM guy, who predicted the market for computers
would be about twenty a year tops?

Most people in the Pick market now or those who have been in the Pick
market in the past think of Pick as some kind of dinosaur, defined as
something from the past that does not exist anymore, while I think of
it as the dinosaur of the future that will be the King of the IT world.

Don't agree? Please start by knowing that one cannot achieve what one
cannot imagine. So if you cannot imagine a rosy future for Pick, go
and make fun of my ideas on comp.databases.microsoft or some forum like
that.

Henry Keultjes


Glen B wrote:
> "Soon will be larger than the PowerPC market?" You do realize how long PC
> standards and hardware licensing have been around, right? It's taken that
> long for PCs to be where they are right now. You don't really expect PowerPC
> to zoom ahead in a couple of years do you? Hell, Opteron's are still an
> unknown architecture in most Wintel-based IT departments. Most of that
> industry still believes that Xeon is the mother of all server chips, yet an
> Opteron will smoke it under any comparison. You can't really expect PowerPC
> to just *poof* "be there". That's not to say that aging x86 developers won't
> see the light before it's all over. I'll take a 68K derivative chip over an
> x86 anyday, just from hands on experience with ease of ASM development.
> Unforuntately, x86 ASM has been taught for SO much longer. The software
> development world will need to catch up, before things will take off. That
> means porting stuff from Wintel platforms to the native instruction set.
> That, will be the REAL challenge for Apple. Just like you can run 32-bit
> instructions on an AMD64, it really doesn't take full advantage of the
> architecture.
>
> Glen
>
> <csigline@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1130210436.714472.154200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > "Its like the IBM RT and Pick were made for each other" so said ***
> > Pick in about 1986. Now the Pick world may have another chance of
> > chosing RISC as its primary platform. Please read on!
> >
> > While speculation was rampant that Dan Dobberpuhl would revive the
> > Alpha processor, his company, P.A. Semi, quietly took out a PowerPC
> > license instead and used his skills to improve on an already fantastic
> > chip.
> >
> > Here are some details
> > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1875302,00.asp
> >
> > While this popularization of the PowerPC chip should have happened a
> > long time ago, it is better late than never. Perhaps, in the eyes of
> > people like Dan Dobberpuhl, Apple put a damper on the market and that
> > damper has now been lifted.
> >
> > In addition to IBM, Samsung and Chartered Semiconductor are at least
> > two PowerPC licensees that can fab these chips for P.A. Semi. Even AMD
> > could fab PowerPC parts. Afterall, Hector Ruiz, AMD's Chairman, is an
> > old PowerPC guy, from Motorola, and AMD has licensed technology from
> > IBM that could allow them to do so.
> >
> > With all the gameboxes, including the Microsoft XBox360, being based on
> > the same PowerPC instructionset, the non-embedded market for the
> > PowerPC family could soon be larger than the X86 market. The embedded
> > PowerPC market is ofcourse huge, probably more than half a billion
> > chips a year, chips that can be used in Thin Clients and other IT
> > devices.
> >
> > Tom deLombarde has already ported OpenQM to a G4 class PowerPC box and
> > we expect to have a port to the 970 before too long.
> >
> > Henry Keultjes
> > Database Scientifics Project http://www.ncolug.org/ppc.htm
> > Mansfield Ohio USA
> > Reply to hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net
> >
>
>
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