Re: I can't find a SETUP.EXE in the SQL Plus Client ??


"DA Morgan" <damorgan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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D. Patrick wrote:
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D. Patrick wrote:
I am not used to Oracle, sorry. I need the client tool to access
someone else's server for testing some SELECT statements I'm
writing for them. I went to:

http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/sql_plus/index.html

and I downloaded the "SQL Plus Instant Client". I just want a
free client because I don't own the Oracle license. I downloaded
it, but there are just DLLs and 2 JAR files. I don't see any
SETUP.EXE file to start the install. What am I missing? How do I
get a free Oracle client installed, if possible, so I can test some
SQL statements.
You do something you may be unfamiliar with since you aren't used to
Oracle: You READ the documentation.

But to flesh this out a bit more ... how are you going to connect to
the
server? The web? TCP/IP? Through a firewall? What version? Your post
is
dangerously short of information that might affect the answer.

Whoever owns the server you are connecting to ... BTW with Oracle
you
don't connect to servers ... should be able to get you a copy of
SQL*Plus. Alternatively you might be able to use the free download
of
SQL*Developer available at http://otn.oracle.com. Hard to tell.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org
There is no documentation with that download. There is just a 2
sentence read-me file which doesn't address anything but a bug.

I will connect through TCP/IP through a firewall.

I just want to install the SQL Plus client tool for executing a few
SQL statements. I can't get any software from the remote person
because my contact is not technical, and it shouldn't matter if the
client tool is available for download anyway. Can anyone help?
Based on what you've written you have absolutely no business trying to
connect (I'd use the word hack or crack) into the server. If the
people
that paid for the Oracle license can't provide a technical person to
provide you with the correct tool and the required configuration file
you are in need of being referred to law enforcement officials not
Oracle resources.

This may be a bit of an over-reaction to what you wrote but I take
security seriously, I hope everyone does, and a non-technical person
has no business authorizing you to do anything. Only a DBA should be
giving you server names/IP addresses and only a DBA should give you a
user-id and password.

I encourage everyone else to not help this poster unless there is some
reason to believe this is anything but an attempt at a break-in.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

Wow. Next time you need help, just remember how you dish it out
yourself. I'm only asking about which is the right file to download
because this one had no SETUP.EXE file. I didn't realize I was asking
for your kids' names and social security numbers!

By the way, if a DBA set up a user account and password for a hacker,
they have bigger problems than me. And if a hacker was as dumb with
Oracle as me, then there is no risk. So: will someone please just
tell me what file to download that has a setup file I can run?
My point was, and remains, that if you are supposed to be accessing
the database then the DBA should be involved and would provide you
with the appropriate tool and connection information.

If you can't ask the DBA for help it equates, in my mind, with being
a hacker. I've yet to meet the DBA that didn't want to make sure
someone connecting to their database had the correct tools and the
correct configuration.

If the DBA won't help you ... there is a reason. Likely a good one.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org


The problem is more that I'm going through multiple layers of people and
vendors, and no one is technical enough to advise about connectivity
issues. I'm a SQL Server tech and able to help with tech issues related
to sql syntax, but just not familiar with Oracle.

Sorry ... but nonsense. If they can't put you on the phone with the
DBA then something is very wrong. And if you are going to be inside
a database with a tool such as SQL*Plus, rather than through an
application front-end, I don't understand how your apparent skill
set, or lack thereof, squares with any of this.

In short ... mark me still very suspicious that something is wrong
based on the picture you are painting.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org



Whatever. I was thinking you might understand that many businesses don't
have DBAs on staff and contractors cannot always be reached, or businesses
don't want to pay contractors for all issues. This is just the reality in
the real world, even though you're obviously lucky enough to work for a
university that doesn't have the same constraints that small businesses
face.

Sincerely,
Your friendly stupid hacker who foolishly posts about a really stupid
question that wouldn't affect any database security anyway.

(If a database were compromised by someone simply knowing how to install SQL
Plus, we'd all have bigger fish to fry than me).


.

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