Re: Oracle licence question

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:23:34 +0000, joebayer wrote:

Group,

Oracle is so expensive, often time, managers chose SQL server over Oracle
only because of the expense, and it is sad to see all those new projects go
to SQL server group. (Our shop do not do any in house software development,
only vendor application, and all vendor applications support both Oracle and
SQL)


Oracle is only expensive when an organization does not know what it is
buying.

IN general, Oracle Standard Edition will compete price- and feature- wise
with SQL Server Enterprise Edition. There are exceptions, but often
management (and the technical 'experts' who advise them - usually
Microsoft bigots) do their 'fair evaluation' on the name of the product
rather than the capabilities.

Custom apps that use Oracle built to maintain 'vendor independence'
are often built totally wrong. They are built to ignore the features in
the database. As a result, the application often duplicates what comes at
no added cost in the database - and that duplication has cost, and will
continue to cost, in development and maintenance. SO you pay for the
feature in Oracle, and then pay for someone to develop the feature.

Aside from that, many managers have absolutely no clue that an application
exit strategy is required, and that the exit strategy costs need to be
included in the application cost.

The cost of a perpetual license with unlimited free upgrades, unlimited
free patches, and unlimited support calls (no matter how stoopid) also
needs to be evaluated against a cheep initial license with every upgrade
and every support call costing an arm and a leg. Again, rarely evaluated
unless management has a clue.

I have one question here:

Is it possible for us only to buy Oracle licence without paying for the
annual support? All I need is accessing metalink website, and my other
projects have already provided such access.


Yes it is possible to purchase without support. However, if you download
patches using one metalink access and apply those patches to systems
without support, you are probably in violation of several agreements.

Thanks for your comments or suggestions as how to make Oracle competitive in
terms of price, what kind of option do I have here?

Some options include using term licenses. After all, if management is not
willing to do some serious cost analysis, chances are great that the
application will be tossed in 2-3 years. So why license for lonmger than
that period.


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