Re: DBMS advantage and disadvantage



Erland Sommarskog wrote:
DA Morgan (damorgan@xxxxxxxxx) writes:
I would have expected something better than this from you. "Appears to
come?" You don't know what is is. You don't know what version it is?
You don't know how old (obsolete) it may be? And you don't know how
well or poorly managed it has been. Hardly the basis for rendering an
opinion one way or the other.

Let me put it this way: I know very well what I have to use every
day is a piece of crap.

Most people feel the same way you do and I would expect that the
vast majority are correct.

It scares me to know that there are probably
people in this corporation that use data the employees enter as some sort of fact and performs analysis from it. But given how poor the UI is, as a user you easily cut corners and you are not terribly exact when you report your times.

Again I'm not disagreeing. But keep in mind that for any of the major
ERP systems these UI's have undoubtedly been extensively customized by
your employer.

When I say that it appears to come from Oracle, it is because it says Oracle in several screens. But I would really like to think that such crap
can not come out from a vendor like Oracle. It more looks like some
locally developed hack that had a limited budget. In fact, the system
is referred to as TERP where the T comes from the company's name.

It may well be something from Oracle ... it may not be ... still
impossible to tell. But do keep in mind that Oracle just purchased
PeopleSoft, J.D. Edwards, Siebel, and a large number of other vendor's
products and has not yet had time to create a major release of their
own in any of them. Check into Project Fusion.

It is quite possible that this is a bad implementation of Oracle ERP.

That wouldn't surprise me.

Then again, I would expect the entry forms for time reporting to be
quite standard. Or do they do UI developement for each customer?

Time reporting is always customized. And the best time reporting of
which I am aware in any major ERP system is PeopleSoft's. My
understanding is that it is the PeopleSoft screen that will be used
as the basis for Fusion but that is just rumor and I could be wrong.

Because it is the web UI that sucks big time.

Oracle is no Apple but then it could just be customizations. I can't say.

As I said, there are at least three local vendors here on the Nordic
market. It is not that all them are thriving, but they are there.

You might want to contact Mogens Norgaard at Miracle A/S in Denmark.
He is your local Nordic expert on all things Oracle and SQL Server
though I don't believe Miracle works with apps.

Furthermore, maybe it's worth considering the size of the company.
I suspect that leiw who asked this question is not working for a large
corporation, but rather a small shop with < 100 employees. I have a feeling that SAP or Oracle ERP is not really the choice here.

You may well be right. But that does not change the calculus. First
you pick your ERP vendor. Then you pick the databases they support.
If the ERP vendor is small and only supports SQL Server 2000 then
the entire issue becomes moot.
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Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (replace x with u to respond)
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