RE: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS?
- From: "Jean Georges Perrin" <jgp@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:00:17 +0200
Fred,
Your issue is surely something different. Firewall blocking a port
somewhere?
jgp
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-----Original Message-----
From: informix-list-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:informix-list-
bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Pratt
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 00:33
To: informix-list@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS?
I just downloaded IDS 10 from the IIUG site. I understand that the
engine
has a 5 session limit and that is quite reasonable for an evaluation,
but I
cannot connect to this instance remotely. I'm pretty certain that I
have
configured the engine, etc for remote connectivity (I was a certified
Informix DBA in a previous life), but I jget a 908 when trying to
connect.
Is this engine crippled in this way also?
Thanks
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: informix-list-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:informix-list-
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On Behalf Of Tool
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:55 PM
To: informix-list@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS?
No. The IIUG version is an altered product.
First of all IBM and/or Informix had to exert little effort to get the
crippling into effect, the IIUG was the one ( Stuart specifically ) who
pushed for crippling the engine so that those nefarious freeloaders out
there wouldn't use the
engine in a production environment. This is a red herring,
but there's no convincing the IIUG they know better. It's easy enough
to
see what other vendors have done, so the model is already out there
with
successful--hugely successful--companies allowing their developer pool
to
grow, which as I've stated over the past 15-20 years, is the key to
growing
Informix in the marketplace. Applications drive databases, databases
don't
drive applications.
Secondly, the other postings regarding this make the point, so I won't
rehash what they said. What the crippling is really about, is an
attempt to
regulate and control the use of the software, and the manufacturer has
of
course every right to do that. But there are better ways to do that,
without impairing the full functionality. I know of several softwares
out
there that use encrypted license keys that prevent the software from
re-installation from one machine to the next, and have a serious
business
relationship with the people that download the software, collecting
enough
information up front to monitor and track the usage. There is already
enough of this as accepted and best practice so I don't need to go into
the
details of how it's done.
Instead, what would work for everyone is a better license registration
process, that clearly states the rights and penalties for improper use,
and
what the expectations are from the vendor if the software is used in a
production environment. It also requires the vendor to have a real
developer program, not mindless web pages that are run by robots.
There
needs to be a connection with your developer community, one that if I
were
working at IBM I would really develop. But we all know that's probably
never going to happen. :-) There are several vendors out there that
offer
license-key products for software, and registration business models.
But I
would strongly argue that Informix's original strength was in having no
license management software, and a strong developer community that was
largely small shops. It was in the smaller sites where strong
development
came from, which eventually bubbled up into larger corporate customers.
This is exactly what Microsoft has continued to rely on, and why it
requires no further explanation as to its ability to be successful and
grow
the Informix market.
Developers are the key to the future of the product, and unless IBM et
al
get this point they are spinning their wheels.
Carsten Haese wrote:
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 10:10 -0700, Tool wrote:
[...] I'd want a developer license for the database,
at no charge, unlimited time to use it. [...]
Isn't that exactly what the IIUG-offered version is?
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