Re: FMPro 7 on a USB-stick

On May 16, 6:00 pm, Helpful Harry <helpful_ha...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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d-42 <db.pors...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 16, 4:24 pm, Helpful Harry <helpful_ha...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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If you have to play around with things like registry settings to get it
to work, then you're almost certainly breaking the licensing agreement.
The agreements usualy state INSTALL ON ONE COMPUTER.

Harry,

You are allowed to move your licensed installation from one computer
to another at any time you like.

Yes, but only if you first uninstall the software from the original
computer and then install it on the new one.

Define uninstall.
Completely removing the application folder from the computer such the
software cannot be run, ie, 'removing the USB drive' the software is
sitting on clearly should count as uninstalling.

What other definition could you use?

Requiring the user to use filemakers 'official uninstaller' is
absurd... because by that logic if your hard drive crashed or you just
reformatted the hard drive, you wouldn't be able to install filemaker
ever again.

That's absurd.

The reason we are now getting a proliferation of these silly
"authentication" systems (some of which don't even work properly!) is
because people do not obey the rules of the agreements they sign by
opening the packaging and installing the product ... in fact most
people don't even bother reading the agreements.

Be that as it may, the use Fons is proposing is clearly not a
violation of the agreement.

What about installing Filemaker into a Virtual Machine? Like VMWare,
Parallels, Virtual PC etc? Is that allowed? Of course it is... its the
recommended way to generate Windows runtimes from an Mac for crying
out loud. Its also the best way to run old versions on Vista or
Leopard.

The license agreement for the FileMaker Advanced is a special case and
does allow you to install on TWO computers - one Mac and one Windows PC
- precisely for the purposes of checking compatibility and for making
runtimes.

You are completely missing the point.

The license agreement with the "home" / "student" versions of Microsoft
Office allow you to install it on three computers. The license
agreements for the "Family" pack for Mac OS X allows you to install it
on five computers.

So if I have a laptop that's set up with bootcamp to use OSX,
WinXPSP1, WinXPSP2, WinXPSP3, original WinXP, Vista, and VistaSP1, how
many computers do I have? Are you seriusly going to argue that I've
got 7 computers?

If i have VMWare installed on EACH of those 7 partitions, and given
them each access to a shared folder with 6 VMware images, containing
different configurations of say Windows XPSP2. How many computers do I
now have? 7+6 = 13? 7*6 = 42? or still just 1?




Again, I don't know what FileMaker 8 or 9's license agreement
specifically does and doesn't allow. People MUST read the agreements
that come with the version of the software they are using. Blindly
saying you "can" do something when the agreement specifically tells you
that you are not allowed to is simply helping people pirate software,
which IS ILLEGAL and is not something we want in this newsgroup.

Harry,

1) Don't turn this into a conversation about reading license
agreements. I've read them all multiple times. I'm not blindly saying
anything.

2) You are being pedantic in your interpretation of them. You claim
you are only allowed to install them on one computer... I'm curious to
see how you define a computer, and whether you are going to seriously
argue that my 1 laptop is dozens of computers. You claim you recognize
you are allowed to move your installation if you uninstall it, but
your apparent definition of uninstall is completely absurd.

3) Breaking a EULA is not Illegal. It is not a crime. It is not a
criminal offense. You cannot be charged by the police. You cannot go
to jail. There is no law, nor has there ever been one that makes it
illegal to break a contract.

3) A contract is a legally binding contract between two parties. But
legally binding doesn't make it illegal to break it. It simply means
that either party can sue for damages or specified remedies should the
contract be broken. Would you care to outline how Fons has broken the
EULA by failing to use the official filemaker uninstaller to uninstall
the software? Would you care to outline the damages to Filemaker Inc.
that 'Fons' has caused by failing to use to the filemaker provided
uninstaller?

-regards,
Dave
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