Re: House Design Details

I see, Wiley [1] has some titles that may be pertinent. I hadn't checked for
a long time.

<%= Clinton Gallagher

[1] http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-2450.html



"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Wiley has published a "vintage" version of Graphic Standards on
> traditional construction techniques that I was thinking of buying next
> week as I remember it is full on wonderful old details, and I may be doing
> some traditional library millwork soon.
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> MichaelB
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> "clintonG" <csgallagher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>I have spent hundreds of dollars on the 'real thing' over the years even
>>to the extent of hiring professional book finder services to help me find
>>the older books which is where the really good stuff is found. I think my
>>experience is typical of the way things really are.
>>
>> Aside from copies of any state and local code books I agree that Francis
>> Ching's books are 'must have' resources as they document detailing and
>> residential construction methodology. Wiley's Graphic Standards however
>> is prohibitively expensive and for more than a decade been focused
>> primarily on commercial and institutional typologies.
>>
>> Older Graphics Standards pre-1985 (at least) were for the most part
>> focused on residential and are 'must have' for remodeling, historic
>> preservation and those who need to learn residential detailing and
>> assemblies. The older books are nearly impossible to find however and
>> again, some such as Graphics Standards can be extremely expensive running
>> into several hundred dollars.
>>
>> Michael, contact me about your contract work requirements...
>>
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>> "Michael (LS)" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> "Bob Morrison" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> In a previous post sa_mc says...
>>>> > Hi, I'm a civil engineer who in my spare time is trying to help some
>>>> > physically disabled adults learn autocad. Hopefully, one or two can
>>>> > advance to the point where they can find employment in this field. I
>>>> > would appreciate downloads of all necessary construction drawings to
>>>> > build a small house or holiday chalet so my students can practice
>>>> > recreating these drawings.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I recommend that you go to the library and get a book on house
>>>> building.
>>>> Let your students copy the details from the book. This will improve
>>>> their skills a lot more than simply editing an existing electronic
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Morrison, PE, SE
>>>> R L Morrison Engineering Co
>>>> Structural & Civil Engineering
>>>> Poulsbo WA
>>>
>>> That's actually a pretty good way to learn the software and (somewhat)
>>> construction documentation. I'd HIGHLY suggest using one of Francis
>>> Ching's
>>> books as a great source of material to emulate (i.e. Building
>>> Construction
>>> Illustrated would be my first choice but he's put out quite a few books,
>>> all
>>> of them very well illustrated). Another good book would be the
>>> "bible" -
>>> Architectural Graphics Standards. It's got lots of good info and is
>>> available in book form or CD-Rom. The quality of the drawings aren't
>>> always
>>> as good as Ching's stuff but it's still a useful tool.
>>>
>>> To be employable in this field requires more than just a knowledge of
>>> the
>>> software. I've found that knowing "what/why" is SOOOO much more
>>> important
>>> than "how". Teaching someone the software is pretty easy (and since
>>> everyone does things differently, using different software, has limited
>>> benefit to long term employment).
>>>
>>> It'd be a disservice to your students to concentrate solely on software
>>> usage without also address "what" should be drawn and "why" then comes
>>> the
>>> "how" to draw it part. Also, the more knowledge they have of
>>> construction
>>> techniques and how things are actually constructed it'll really help
>>> them.
>>>
>>> To give you an example, I'm currently looking for 1-2 people to do
>>> free-lance contract work (up to 250+ hours/month on average). The work
>>> will
>>> be done using Cad Overlay which I have no experience with (nor do any of
>>> my
>>> current people). I think I'll probably end up having one of my people
>>> learn
>>> the software because the software learning curve is shorter than the
>>> "what/why" of drawing construction documentation. Problem is, if I put
>>> one
>>> of my current people on the Overlay work then they wouldn't have the
>>> time to
>>> do their current work.
>>>
>>> Anyways, to make them employable make sure they know more than just the
>>> software!
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael (LS)
>>>
>>>
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