Re: Can anythink kill x86-64? (was Re: IPF's future?)



"David Kanter" <dkanter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1146771950.603912.116730@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There is little reason to think that the ISA has much, if anything, to do
with those differences. If you put a POWER (or PPC) decoder on the
front of an x86/AMD64 chip and measured the difference, I'm certain
the various SPEC scores would come out nearly identical to the
native ones. There's simply too many other factors in system design
to consider any "ISA" comparison to be meaningful these days. Core
design, caches, memory bandwidth, etc. will hide any possible
difference the ISA can make.

That is to some extent true. See my response to Bill about the
point I was making, both of you guys were responding to a subargument.

Indeed I was; I agreed with your main argument but had one nit with how you backed it up.

My point was that x86 chips are not the fastest in the world by a long
shot, even if they are clocked the highest. They are seriously
outclassed by the POWER5+ in server benchmarks, which is lower
clocked. My point was that clock speed != performance all the time.

I think anyone who's used a wide variety of architectures would agree with that. Clock speed is relevant only within a family of processors sharing the same design. Comparing NetBust to the P6/PM or Hammer proves this even within the same ISA.

S

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