Re: An Open Letter to Mr. John Bass (was: Urgent Help Needed!!!!!)
- From: fpga_toys@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: 21 Mar 2006 18:18:04 -0800
Erik Widding wrote:
As this is a thinly veiled reference to my last post, I am going to
treat it as directed at me, personnally.
Actually, I posted to the head article simply because it wasn't
directed at any one person. But you certainly choose to make it
personal.
The bigger picture is this: you are a guest in this community.
The bigger picture is that YOU have never owned this forum, nor have
you ever been elected to speak for this forum. I was not the only
poster to object to the lack of respect of others actions and view
points regarding this matter. Your diatribe here in the form of direct
personal attacks is nothing more than classic trolling, by assuming
that you speak for the community in it's entirety, which has been
clearly demonstrated as false.
We as a community ask that people make an effort to write in proper
english, making a best effort to use proper spelling and grammar, be
considerate of others, keep commercial postings to a minimum, etc.
And if that was truely your intent, that posters be considerate of
others, and commercial posting kept to minimum, then your angst should
be at yourselves, as the worst offenders in consideration are those
that mistakenly think they own it. YOU, John_H, Peter, Austin, and
several others, regulary insult anyone that dares to disagree with you.
In fact, each of you when challenged, ask people to leave, just to
protect your kingdom.
We will defend our turf from those that do not show it the
respect we ask for.
So anyone that doesn't bow before you is unwelcome .... I didn't see
that anywhere in the description of this groups founding principles, or
any usenet group since inception two and a half decades ago when I
first started participating on usenet.
Ray's posts are always informative and well thought through.
Actually Ray's posts were not. I actually called him this afternoon and
we talked a while, and at the end of that talk I think we are on the
same page, or reasonably close.
The long and the short of it, we agree that all the major things I see
as RC needs are lacking, and there currently isn't any plan to provide
them, nor is their any simple short term solution path. But I'll let
you talk with Ray yourself.
If the experts can stop handwaving about what has failed in the past,
and start being objective about solution paths to explore, then maybe
your advise would be worth something. But people that whine about those
that are trying to forge past previous failures, really are just
obstructionists. NOT mentors.
Not only do you lack the bigger picture understanding with much of the
subject material that you chose to write on, you also seem to lack an
understanding of who you are actually communicating with. So when you,
as you did this afternoon, rip someone like Ray a new one, it sends an
even more significant message: you not only don't have enough respect
for this forum, you don't know enough about the subject matter to know
who some of the strongest minds in the field are.
Stongest minds? I don't see you providing constructive advise toward
solutions, I just see you having a tantrum because someone else is
trying what others have failed at. I'm not the brightest kid on the
block, but an I'm persistant.
You do not deserve RESPECT when you freely trash others ... RESPECT is
earned, not bought, demanded, coerced, or extorted as you attempt.
Respect comes when you can learn to show respect at ALL times, with
patience and empathy. That YOU, Peter, John_H, and others just demand
it, is your falacy in your own self image as gods.
I chose the word bigot for a reason:
Bigot \Big"ot\, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite
1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]
[1913 Webster]
2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of
religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or
opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable
or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is
intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in
politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to
his own church, party, belief, or opinion.
[1913 Webster]
Note the "intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own", as you,
Peter, John_H and others demand that your views are the one and only
acceptable view in this forum.
As you lack the capacity to discuss others view point, and simply
demand that they accept yours. You lack the ability to discuss issues,
you demand yours. You lack the ability to even debate issues on the
merits of each others view points, as when you feel threatened, it's an
all out session of ridicule and personal attack.
Get over yourself.
I have read as you have been given sensible information by many in this
group that reflects years of practical experience with FPGAs, silicon
fabrication and test, partial reconfiguration and place and route, and
stood back in utter disbelief as you couldn't be bothered to digest
this information and allow it to sculpt your view in the least. You
simply defend your original view, or one that is simply contrary to the
masses, and keep arguing.
Sensible? get real. I've been told what doesn't work, as fact, not a
discussion point of why with consideration that maybe things have since
changed, and today there is a solution, that didn't exist 5 years go,
or 20 years ago, when the last failure occured.
I'm equally at that point. For reconfigurable computing .... IE using
FPGAs as computing engines for arbitrary programs and netlists ....
nearly everything is broken. There is NO discussion about getting this
fixed, or pointers to things that would provide fast dynamic place and
route on Xilinx FPGAs today ... NOR tomarrow.
I'm sure that each of you have very valid reasons for wanting expensive
zero defect FPGA's. That doesn't give you the right to start insulting
me and argueing why my vision of RC with defect management isn't right
for my application. In fact, the posters here have a lot of lame
execuses why that is bad for me, but NO ONE has objectively constructed
a clear case for why it would be bad for FPGA based computers.
Mr. John Bass, fpga_toys, you are what is wrong with our community.
Welcome to my witch trial. This forum existed for ten years before you
got here, and it will exist for many more after you get bored and leave
to torment another community.
No Eric, YOU and your fellow self proclaimed GODS are what is wrong
with OUR community, as it is NOT YOURS. And you are right ... it is a
witch trial, just as flawed as every other witch trial in history. And
this forum will most likely exist long after YOU are gone.
Actually, as you seem to be a rather intelligent individual, that might
be able to become a member of this community I respectfully ask that
The right to post here is NOT subject to your permission.
you drop the devil's advocate role and leave it for those that have
spent more time in our community and more than a few days in our
You don't even have a clue.
Xilinx wants to sell chips.
That is great .... They also currently want to put many in the trash,
because of an out dated zero defect policy. I don't think that you
speak for Xilinx, but you sure seem to claim to.
This post is the extent of the help that I am likely to offer you, as
you have royally pissed me off. Maybe some of the others will
eventually be more charitable.
Your Royality worked himself into a frenzy because this is an open
forum, and not subject to your rule.
When you and your cronies learn that it is NOT your right to call
others imbecile, infantile, fools, and the other many insults here, and
you start actually being constructive, rather than intentionally
distructive, then you might, just might once again earn the right and
respect as a peer, in a peer forum.
Till then, I WILL stay here and challenge your flagrant assertion you
are the GODS of this forum, each and every time you violate another
poster RIGHT to be treated fairly and respectifuly with your arrogant
self proclaim right to dis others here as you please.
If you wish to be a bigot, and irrationally force your views on others
without the right of discussion or free and open debate, then I will
continue to remind you just what a bigot is. I will remind you of what
and who the real imbecile is here.
.
- References:
- An Open Letter to Mr. John Bass (was: Urgent Help Needed!!!!!)
- From: Erik Widding
- An Open Letter to Mr. John Bass (was: Urgent Help Needed!!!!!)
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