Re: [RANT] Webpack 8.1 editor totally messed up ?

Antti Lukats wrote:
"Antonio Pasini" <removethis_pasini.a@xxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:43cd66bc$0$1087$4fafbaef@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I already saw the message from Antti about '|' char on German keyboard. So I installed WebPack 8.1 with some trepidation...

Sadly, *seems* that on XP SP2 with Italian keyboards almost NO control key works.

Can some other guy verify this ?

I cannot write '@', '#', '[', ']', '{', '}'.. Imagine write verilog code! CTRL-F doesn't work, also...

It doesn't work even in "float mode". Tried on three different machines, at work and at home. Machines used different keyboards, and different levels of update of XP.

Probably someting very stupid is going on... otherwise, Webpack 8.1 editor (even with SP1) is useless, for an Italian user.

If this it's real... really makes me think Xilinx should honestly re-examine its internal development process.

I noticed also many other annoying little things:

- "Ctrl" keys doesn't work also: forget about Ctrl-F to find some text.
- In float mode, "Replace" IS in the Edit menu (but NO quick icon), and Ctrl-H doesn't work
- In float mode, "Find" is IS NOT in the Edit menu (but IS present as an icon), and Ctrl-F doesn't work.
- Menu windows are sloooooooow... before appearing, a black filled rectangle appears, then text comes. This on all the machines I tried. Fast machines.
- TAB sequence is screwed in the "New Source Wizard"... try writing a pin, the press TAB to enter the following one... surprise! need to grab the mouse.

All of this in the first ten minutes of playing. Very sad.

Sometimes I wonder if Xilinx developers really try to USE what they do, or are they "just" using blind regression testing scripts in search of the last 1% of performance.

Performance is important, yes, but first address the "mundane" tasks!

Xilinx, usually your support is really second to none. It's one of the reasons I prefer Xilinx over the A guys.

Please release an hotfix.... do not ask us Italian guys to wait months for the next service pack...

Meanwhile, back to 7.1SP4, waiting for the next 3 service packs for 8.1 to reach an "honest" level... Sigh.




Hi

after verifying the hot keys in 'flaot mode' I was a bit 'breathing' as it is a workaround, until I tried the

|

in float mode - and that doesnt work in float mode either - so we can say it
is confirmed the ISE 8.1 built in editor is useless for non US keyboard users :(

well I still use my notepad.exe trick to copy the | into clipboard when I need it, but I guess others are defenetly not willing to use this kind of workarounds

Antti





Isn't it still possible to define your own external (favorite) editor in ISE as it was before? In 7.1 it was done in Edit/Preferences dialog. That is, when double clicking on a file in the 'Sources in Project:'-view the code was opened in your predefined editor. I've been doing this for quite a long time since I never really liked the ISE editor...

Another workaround could be to install the american keyboard layout (which I'm using in my external editor since some common characters are more accessable than on the swedish keyboard). A simple alt+left shift in windows swaps the layout from your native one to the american one..

As for me I havn't installed ISE 8.1i yet since I'm waiting for EDK...

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