Re: Memetic takeover



Alpha wrote:
On Oct 29, 8:14 am, Tim Tyler <seemy...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Alpha wrote:

You say: "We can get insight into this process by observing recent
technological evolution." which bears little or no relation to
autopoietic organisms evolving by natural experiment in the natural
world. Talks about comapring apples and pieces of green wood!
If you want an example from DNA-based evolution, consider the
case of marsupials in South America. These did not evolve into
the placental mammals that now live there - though people once
thought that they did. Rather they were competitively displaced
by invading placentals, which evolved elsewhere, and then invaded
via the newly-formed American land bridge in Mexico.

We can see much the same thing happening today in Australia,
despite its island status.

Has nothing to do with technological evolution; you miss the point
repeatedly. marsupials are autopoietic organisms and evolution per se
deals with such. Not so tech evo.

To recap, you criticised me for providing examples of technological
evolution to illustrate an issue that arose from a discussion
of DNA-based evolution.

After I provided examples of DNA-based evolution that illustrate
the same point, I did not expect to then be criticised for
not providing examples from technological evolution.
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