Re: Memetic takeover



Alpha wrote:

You say: "We can get insight into this process by observing recent
technological evolution." which bears little or no relation to
autopoietic organisms evolving by natural experiment in the natural
world.

Yes it does. Memes are inherited material that is not made out of DNA.

Memetic change is part of biological evolution, according to the
standard definition of evolution - which makes no reference to the
medium of inheritance.

As such it shares many properties with DNA evolution: for example,
the concepts of adaptation, genotype, drift, phenotype, gene, parasite,
mutualist, predator, mutation, recombination, neutrality, selection
and gradualism all apply.

That certainly does not constitute "little or no relation".

And: "It now appears that the modern memetic takeover will be
accompanied by a phenotypic takeover as well. 20 amino acids are no
more an optimal universal constructor than 4 base pairs are an optimal
universal storage medium."

It appears that way to irrational clueless individuals that do not
realize that memes are dependent on facilities like humans to advance
into cultural contexts or any context for that matter.

The new replicators are dependent on humans *today*. As I point out,
the memes are busy constructing robots and synthetic intelligence -
which will facilitate the ending of this deplorable (from the memes'
POV, of course!) situation.

There is no sense in which they will take over phenotypic instantiations
> of humans or anything else.

I was aware of your opinion already - but thanks for clarifying it.
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