Re: Challenge to Curt


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On 25 Mar, 15:39, "Alpha" <OmegaZero2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 22 Mar, 20:23, "Alpha" <OmegaZero2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Show that the APs of a neuron(s) (or any other property of a neuron or
group/net of neurons, or whatever other property of brain you want to
identify with experience) are *identical * with the experience of red.
Do
so without bringing in your delusional conditioning/religious beliefs
in
swirling atoms and such. Use the real scientific method. Posit an
hypothesis and provide experimental data that shows such identity.

I think you have it backwards.

Nope;

Curt is making the claim that it *is* identical* , not me.

If you claim that they aren't, the burden of proof is on you.

Nope; first of all, science proves nothing so there is no *proof* either way
being asked for,.

Second, Curt has an hypothesis that neural events and
experiential/phenomenological/mental events are *identical*.

Now science proceeds with showing that an hypothesis has some evidence to
it, or not. I asked Curt to show his evidence and some reasoning behind it.

I can *easilty* show, and *have shown* (if you can read), that the twop
classes of phenomena are *not* identical per Leibniz's Law.

As an example:
1) Neurons (or any other neural property qua neural property like APs etc.)
are not red in color; my experience is red in color.
2) My experience is not gooey in character; neurons are gooey in character.

Therefore, the two classes of phenomena, neurons and phenomenal experience
are not *identical*; to assume or posit such as Curt fdoes is a category
error.




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