Re: Does Searle's "Chinese Room" argument imply that consciousness is non-scientific?

On Sep 26, 1:58 am, tvashtar <tvash...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 25, 9:33 pm, JGCASEY <jgkjca...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by "non-scientific" process,
I assume you mean a process not accessible to science?

Well I suppose I have difficulty understanding where Searle is going
with the argument. As you state below I certainly feel the idea of
understanding Chinese is in a sense an emergent property of the
system, and cannot be expected to be observable as anything more than
deterministic operations at a lower level, but once we accept Searle's
argument are we bound to a dualist view of the mind as something
different from, say, the liver? At the heart of it all I wonder if
Searle saying the kind of understanding a human feels capable of is
not an algorithmic process, and as such can never be artificially
recreated?

You should actually read Searle some time. He answers these
questions.

.

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