Re: Does Searle's "Chinese Room" argument imply that consciousness is non-scientific?




"Curt Welch" <curt@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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forbisgaryg@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Sep 25, 7:41 am, tvashtar <tvash...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 25, 3:18 pm, c...@xxxxxxxx (Curt Welch) wrote:

Is consciousness or awareness third person observable? I don't
think so.

That really is the question which is the foundation of all the debate. I
think consciousness is third person observable because I don't believe
there's anything in a conscious person other than the physical behavior of
their brain.

We just don't have the tools or evidence to prove this belief right or
wrong.

I just don't believe in dualism. It's inconsistent with everything we
know
about the universe so I choose to believe we are not dualistic. I believe
that the physical world, and the mental world, are not two separate
things,
but that they are one and the same thing.

Perhaps better put: One thing with two (or more) very different aspects; 1.
the machinations of atoms, moelecules, cells and fields etc., and 2. the
psychological machinations of which we are all familiar. All arranged in
"strange loops", hierarchies, feedback/feedforward loops and complex
adaptive "subsystems/systems".


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