Re: What part of the brain is conscious?

"JPl" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"JGCASEY" <jgkjcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Just one last thought before signing off on the topic.


Sometimes rain has a rainbow therefore a rainbow is "nothing
but" the action of rain.

When we move a static electric field we observe a magnetic
field therefore a magnetic field is "nothing but" a moving
electric field.

This are observations after the facts, not explanations of
the observations.

Maybe if you light a pipe and have more time to read, the riddle of how
to explain consciousness I think is nicely covered (uhh.. not solved, but
the map laid out) here:

http://consc.net/papers/facing.html

My problem with Curt's quick-an-dirty cleansing of bemuddled mental
waters, is that it is actually a very thin theory and of little help to
science.

Of course it makes sense to say that neural (and other..?) brain
activity/process IS conscious experience. That is the common sense idea
among most scientists. But that is not the problem, ie "the hard
problem", to which you it seems also refer.

The problem is that when I see a green frog, no scientist will find that
green frog in my brain when they observe my brain, not on any scale nor
any level of detail, with whatever measurement device available ot
thinkable. Curt's suggestion that this problem of dualism exists only
because we got brain washed (- or bread crumbed) into this idiotic
idea... itself is truly idiotic. (sorry Curt :))

:)

Actually, there's a much harder hard problem I just found. I don't know
why I never saw it before.

I tried looking inside my computer today, and I realized that I couldn't
find a single Usenet post. There were wires, and boards, and ICs, and
fans, a few spinning disks, and a strange amount of dust that appeared to
be dead human skin and I little bit of coffee. But not a single fucking
Usenet post. How can that be? I spend all day reading and writing Usenet
posts on this computer, yet they aren't anywhere inside it?

This is the hard problem that the science of computer biology is going to
have to answer for us. They must be hidden in the processing somehow. It
seems the hard problems just keep getting harder instead of easier!

:)

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