Re: The animal, not the environment, controls behavior.


JGCASEY wrote:
Michael Olea wrote:
JGCASEY wrote:
It is not the car that "wants" to go to Aunt Emmie's.
However you want to define what is meant by having
"wants" it is part of the driver in this case and even
if you can trace that "want" back through the driver's
history it is the driver's history not the car's history.

This seems so clear to me I can only suspect the
behaviorists have some kind of viewpoint that they
can't seem to make clear to the average Joe such as
myself. Michael Olea seems to understand what they
are on about but so far has not explained it either.


Or, an alternative hypothesis, I have explained "stimulus
control", and you have not understood the explanation.
I'll try to make a clearer explanation, but there are
other things I "want" to focus on first.


To "explain" means something is "understood". If the paint
falls off the wall, for whatever reason, you have failed to
paint the wall. An explanation for one person may not be
an explanation for another person.

Of course there may be something lacking in the person to
whom the explanation is directed, just as a wall may be
too oily to paint, in which case the wall will remain
unpainted and the person will remain "unchanged".

Just an after thought. Explaining it to me isn't really important.
It is explaining it to those people who are well educated in these
things as to why their take on the worth behaviorism is faulty.

If you are clever enough to do what Curt is trying to do, convert
his understanding of behaviourism into AI, then I will stand by
with admiration. At this point the smartest behaviors are comming
from cognitive based GOFAI even if it has limitations.

--
JC

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