Re: Pain and computationalism



Jason, but you *are* being very kind to me. Perhaps what I said myself
sounded rude, I am very sorry.

Not rudeness was detected on your end. We agree to mutual kindness.

"One is nothing without the experience of one's predecessors"? I am
not familiar with this quote


I do not recall the exact wording, but Etienne Gilson (in "The unity of
philosophical experience") said just that, namely, that logic is the
core, whereas subsequent generations continue to enlarge the common
knowledge base interfaced by language (I truly wish I had already read
"The Society of Mind" which, imho, discusses precisely that, and in
great detail). This seems the whole idea behind a society.

I understand.

Please, consult "The Society of Mind".

Yes. Thank You.

One should not live vicariously.

I agree. But discipline is very good.

Only goal-oriented discipline is practical.

One should also not
place too much emphasis on consistency.
Consistency has it's place and
time, research and experimental procedures, but in practicality
consistancy is as whimsical as a "perpetual motion machines". How is
this possible? Because we suppress our inconsistant nature in order to
produce consistancy. This in and of itself is inconsistent.

You see, I now _only aspire to knowledge, so I really feel incapable of
discussing the multifurcation of number theory here. I am so sorry. I
simply have not made my way through PM and Goedel's results just yet.

You only aspire to knowledge? Did you mistate your goal? If by
knowledge you refer to a record of information, then mere rocks are
knowledgable as they contian records of past meteorological and
geological information.

I aspire to comprehend knowledge.

I disagree, with kindness, tom.

I see. And I accept it. Thank you for expressing this opinion. You see,
this is a division of labour society, and we depend on one another.

We have not yet reached the critical mass necessary for Hive-mentality.

"Truth", like "Reality" is something the human brain/mind can never
comprehend.

You say "never" as if you knew the "Truth".

I chose the word "never" specific to my comprehension of the word
"truth". Truth implies a method or perpetual seeking of something
elusive and unobtainable. It has even been suggested that truth exists
in an alternative realm, which would negate any possibility of finding
it in our present environments. My comprehension of truth is that it is
a paradigm, blue-print, template to which humans compare ideas to.
Those ideas that most closely match the paradigm of truth are the ones
accepted as such, despite any remaining flaws in human reasoning.

"For us there is no ignorabimus. We must know, so we will know."
-- D. Hilbert

I contain much knowledge. So did/does D. Hilbert.
I comprehend little of such knowledge. Most likely so did/does D.
Hilbert.
I strive to comprehend the knowledge I gain. Not apparantly so with D.
Hilbert.


I love listening to it (the text has an embedded MP3 entry):
http://math.sfsu.edu/smith/Documents/HilbertRadio/HilbertRadio.pdf

Kindest regards,
Tom


Regards as well,

-Jason

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