Re: The Information Beyond Matter
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harunyahya2011@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> The Information Beyond Matter
> & Lawh-i Mahfuz
>
> HARUN YAHYA
>
>
>
> Information... This concept today means a lot more than it did even a
> half century ago. Scientists are developing theories to define
> information. Social scientists speak of "the information age."
> Information is becoming a very important concept for humanity.
>
> The discovery of information in the origin of both the universe and
> life itself is what makes this concept so important in the modern
> world. Scientists today are realizing that the universe is formed by
> "matter, energy and information," and this is replacing the
> materialistic philosophy of the nineteenth century that defined the
> universe as being made up entirely of "matter and energy."
>
> So, what does this all mean?
>
> Let's explain through an example, that of DNA. All living cells
> function according to the genetic information in the double helix
> structure of DNA. Our bodies are also formed by trillions of cells each
> with its own DNA, and all the functions of our bodies are registered in
> this giant molecule. Our cells use protein codes inscribed in the DNA
> to produce new proteins. The information that our DNA possesses is so
> large that if you wanted to write it down, it would fill up 900 volumes
> of encyclopedias, cover-to-cover!
>
> So what is DNA made up of? Fifty years ago, scientists would have
> replied that DNA is formed by nucleic acids called nucleotides and the
> chemical bonds holding these nucleotides together. In other words, they
> used to list only the material elements of the DNA. But today,
> scientists have a different answer: DNA is composed of atoms,
> molecules, chemical bonds and, most importantly, information.
>
> It's just like a book. We would be quite mistaken to say that a book is
> only made up of paper, ink and binding for, alongside these materials,
> it is the information that truly makes it a book. It is information
> which separates a volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica from a "book"
> formed by randomly arranged letters like ABICLDIXXGGSDLL. Both have
> paper, ink and binding, but one has information while the other does
> not. The source of information is the author of that book, a mind with
> consciousness. Therefore we can't deny that the information in DNA was
> placed there by an intelligent being.
>
>
>
> The Information Dead End of Evolutionary Theory and Materialism
>
> The discovery of this fact has sent materialist philosophy and
> Darwinism, its application to the natural sciences, into a dead end,
> because materialist philosophy claims that all living things are formed
> by matter alone and that genetic information appeared somehow by
> "chance." This is like saying that a book could be formed from a random
> assemblage of paper and ink.
>
> Materialism subscribes to the theory of "reductionism," which claims
> that information can ultimately be reduced to matter. For this reason,
> materialists say that there's no need to look for any source of
> information besides matter. But this assertion has been proven to be in
> error, and even materialists have started to owe up to this truth.
>
> One of the leading defenders of the theory of evolution, George C.
> Williams, pointed in a 1995 essay to the mistake of materialism
> (reductionism), that is, assuming everything to consist of materials:
>
> Evolutionary biologists have failed to realize that they work with two
> more or less incommensurable domains: that of information and that of
> matter... These two domains will never be brought together in any kind
> of the sense usually implied by the term "reductionism." ...The gene is
> a package of information, not an object... In biology, when you're
> talking about things like genes and genotypes and gene pools, you're
> talking about information, not physical objective reality... This
> dearth of shared descriptors makes matter and information two separate
> domains of existence, which have to be discussed separately, in their
> own terms. 1
>
> Stephen C. Meyer, a philosopher of science from the Cambridge
> University and who is critical of the theory of evolution as well as
> materialism, says in an interview:
>
> One thing I do in classes to get this idea across the students is that
> I hold up two computer disks. One is loaded with software, the other
> one is blank. And I ask, "What is the difference in mass between these
> two computer disks as a result of the difference in the information
> content that they possess"? And of course the answer is zero, none,
> there is no difference as a result of the information. That is because
> information is a massless quantity. Information is not a material
> entity.
>
> Then how can any materialistic explanation explain its origin? How can
> any material cause explain its origin?... This creates a fundamental
> challenge to the materialistic evolutionary scenarios.
>
> In the 19th century, we thought that there were two fundamental
> entities of science: Matter and energy. At the beginning of the 21st
> century, we now recognize that there is a third fundamental entity, and
> it is information. It is not reducible to matter; it is not reducible
> to energy. 2
>
> All theories put forward in the twentieth century to reduce information
> to matter-like the random origin of life, self-organization of matter,
> the biological theory of evolution that has tried to explain species'
> genetic information through the mechanism of mutation and natural
> selection-have failed. Professor Phillip Johnson, a leading critic of
> Darwinism, wrote:
>
> The real duality at every level of biology is the duality of matter and
> information. The philosophers of mind-science fail to understand the
> true nature of information because they assume that it is produced by a
> material (i.e. Darwinian) process and hence is not something
> fundamentally different from matter. But this is merely a prejudice
> that would be swept away by unbiased thinking. 3
>
> As Johnson states, "information is not matter, although it is imprinted
> on matter. It comes from elsewhere, from an intelligence...." Dr.
> Werner Gitt, a director and professor at the German Federal Institute
> of Physics and Technology, expressed much the same thought:
>
> A coding system always entails a nonmaterial intellectual process. A
> physical matter cannot produce an information code. All experiences
> show that every piece of creative information represents some mental
> effort and can be traced to a personal idea-giver who exercised his own
> free will, and who is endowed with an intelligent mind.... There is no
> known law of nature, no known process and no known sequence of events
> which can cause information to originate by itself in matter... 4
>
> As we discussed above, a book is formed by paper, ink and the
> information it includes. The source of this information is the mind of
> the author.
>
> And there is one more important point: This mind comes prior to the
> material elements and it decides how to use them. A book first appears
> in the mind of the person who will write that book. The author makes
> logical connections and comes up with sentences. Later, in the second
> stage, he gives these ideas a material form. By using a typewriter or
> computer, he turns the information contained within his mind into
> letters. Later these letters go to a printing house and they make up a
> book.
>
> So here, we can reach the following conclusion: "If matter includes
> information, then that material has been pre-organized by a mind
> possessing that information. First there was a mind, and then the owner
> of that mind turned that information into matter and thus created a
> design."
>
>
>
>
> The Mind That Existed Before Matter
>
> Therefore, the source of the information in nature cannot be the matter
> itself, as the materialists claim. The source of information is not
> matter, but rather a supra-material Mind. This Mind existed before
> matter. The Mind created, shaped and organized the whole material
> universe.
>
> Biology isn't the only branch of science leading us to this conclusion.
> Twentieth century astronomy and physics also demonstrated the existence
> of an astonishing harmony and design, pointing to the existence of a
> Mind that existed before the universe and created it.
>
> Israeli scientist Gerald Schroeder who studied physics and biology in
> universities like the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), and
> the author of the book The Science of God, makes some important remarks
> on this subject. In his new book entitled The Hidden Face of God:
> Science Reveals the Ultimate Truth, he explains the conclusion reached
> by molecular biology and quantum physics as follows:
>
> A single consciousness, a universal wisdom, pervades the universe. The
> discoveries of science, those that search the quantum nature of
> subatomic matter, have moved us to the brink of a startling
> realization: all existence is the expression of this wisdom. In the
> laboratories we experience it as information that first physically
> articulated as energy and then condensed into the form of matter. Every
> particle, every being, from atom to human, appears to represent a level
> of information, of wisdom. 5
>
> According to Schroeder, the scientific results of our age lead science
> and theology to meet at a common truth. This is the truth of Creation.
> Science is now re-discovering this truth that divine religions have
> actually taught to humanity for millennia.
>
>
>
> The Lawh-i Mahfuz (The Preserved Tablet)
>
> So far, we have looked at science's conclusions about the universe and
> the origin of living things. The conclusion is that the entire universe
> and life itself were created using a blueprint of magnificent
> information that existed before.
>
> This conclusion reached by modern science is strikingly in agreement
> with a secret that was laid out in the Qur'an some 14 centuries ago. In
> the Qur'an, a book sent to people as a guide, God announced that the
> Lawh-i Mahfuz (the Preserved Tablet) existed before the creation of the
> universe and that it furthermore explained all creation and events in
> the universe.
>
> The Lawh-i Mahfuz was "guarded" (mahfuz) so the things written there
> were not changed or spoiled. In the Qur'an, this is called "Ommu
> al-Kitabi" (The Mother of the Book), "Kitabun Hafeethun"
> (All-Preserving Book), "Kitabin Maknoonin" (Well-Protected Book) or
> just the book. It is also called Kitabin min Qabli (The Book of
> Decrees) since it also tells of the events that humanity will face.
>
> In many verses, God tells about the characteristics of the Lawh-i
> Mahfuz. First of all, there is nothing missing from this book:
>
> The keys of the Unseen are in His possession. No one knows them but
> Him. He knows everything in the land and sea. No leaf falls without His
> knowing it. There is no seed in the darkness of the earth, and nothing
> moist or dry which is not in a Clear Book. (Qur'an, 6: 59)
>
> One verse says that all life in the world is recorded in the Lawh-i
> Mahfuz:
>
> There is no creature crawling on the earth or flying creature, flying
> on its wings, who are not communities just like yourselves -We have
> not omitted anything from the Book- then they will be gathered to
> their Lord. (Qur'an, 6: 38)
>
> In another verse, it is stated that "on earth and in the heavens," in
> the entire universe, all creatures and things, including the smallest
> speck, are known by God and recorded in the Lawh-i Mahfuz:
>
> You do not engage in any matter or recite any of the Qur'an or do any
> action without Our witnessing you while you are occupied with it. Not
> even the smallest speck eludes your Lord, either on earth or in heaven.
> Nor is there anything smaller than that, or larger, which is not in a
> Clear Book. (Qur'an, 10: 61)
>
> All information concerning humanity is in the Lawh-i Mahfuz, and this
> includes the genetic code of all people and their destinies:
>
> Nonetheless they are amazed that a warner should have come to them from
> among themselves and those who disbelieve say, "What an extraordinary
> thing! When we are dead and turned to dust? That would be a most
> unlikely return!" We know exactly how the earth eats them away. We
> possess an all-preserving Book. (Qur'an, 50: 2-4)
>
> The following verse states that God's words in the Lawh-i Mahfuz are
> endless, and this is explained through an example:
>
> If all the trees on earth were pens and all the sea, with seven more
> seas besides, was ink God's words still would not run dry. God is
> Almighty, All-Wise. (Qur'an, 31: 27)
>
>
>
> Conclusion
>
> The facts that we explored in this article prove yet again that the
> findings of modern science confirm what religion teaches to people. The
> materialist dogmatism that has been imposed on science is in fact
> rejected by science itself.
>
> The conclusions of modern science about information serve to
> objectively demonstrate who is right in a dispute that has been raging
> for thousands of years. This dispute has been waged between materialist
> thought and religion. Materialist thought claims that matter is without
> beginning and that nothing existed before matter. Religion, on the
> other hand, states that God existed before matter, and that matter is
> created and ruled by God's endless knowledge.
>
> The fact that this truth, which has been taught by divine religions -
> like Judaism, Christianity and Islam - since the dawn of history, has
> been proved by the findings of science, is an indication of the
> impending post-atheist age. Humanity is getting closer to realizing
> that God truly exists and He is the "All-Knowing." Just as reminded to
> people in the following verse of the Holy Qur'an:
>
> Do you not know that God knows everything in heaven and earth? That is
> in a Book. That is easy for God. (Qur'an, 22: 70)
>
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________
>
> (1) George C. Williams. The Third Culture: Beyond the Scientific
> Revolution. (ed. John Brockman). New York, Simon & Schuster, 1995, pp.
> 42-43
> (2) Stephen Meyer, "Why Can't Biological Information Originate Through
> a Materialistic Process", Unlocking the Mystery of Life, DVD, Produced
> by Illustra Media, 2002
> (3) Phillip Johnson, The Wedge of Truth: Splitting the Foundations of
> Naturalism , Intervarsity Press, Illinois, 2000, p. 123
> (4) Werner Gitt. In the Beginning Was Information. CLV, Bielefeld,
> Germany, pp. 107, 141
> (5) Gerald Schroeder, The Hidden Face of God, Touchstone, New York,
> 2001, p. xi
>
>
>
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Harunyahya wrote:-
>The source of information is the author of that book, a mind with
>consciousness. Therefore we can't deny that the information in DNA was
>placed there by an intelligent being.
I don't know about that, let's say I'm a bit of a pantheist about
life, that'consciousness'expressed through language is metaphorical,
is artificial most of the time. If I were to raise my standard
higher and to say that all the works in the world, the good, bad
the floods,famine the technology were all the works of a singular
entity and I were a vehicle of that entities will, then I would
both surrender freewill and be presuming to know the mind of God.
We do not know the will or mind of God now do we? We have 26 puney
letters of the alphabet....and you're not going to tell me that
all the wills and wheresfores of any entity other than the hand
of a human being can express anything other than the wills and
wherefores of a human mind! (hope this does not offend you)
Genes do not determine the will of man. Genes predispose
indiviualities. Who are we to say what is perfect in the mind
of another, let alone God (singular)?
You might dip into Matt Rideys'Genome',and'nature via nurture'.
N.
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