Re: Qualia Question

"1Z" <peterdjones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Curt Welch wrote:
> > "1Z" <peterdjones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Lester Zick wrote:
> > >
> > > > So why is it a subjective experience exactly? You don't seem to be
> > > > able to discriminate behavior very well. You just hypothesize
> > > > certain interactions and call them subjective. What's the
> > > > difference between subjective and objective behavior exactly in
> > > > mechanical terms?
> > >
> > > The difference arises in descriptive terms. There is no reason to
> > > insist that everything has to be explained mechanically.
> >
> > To solve AI, we MUST explain everything mechanically. If we can't
> > explain everything mechanically, then we can't solve AI.
>
> Indeed. But there is no a priori reason to suppose that we solve AI,
> and therefore no a priori reasom to inist that everything must be
> mechanically explicable.
>
> > This is an AI group, so the point of all this debate is to help us
> > build mechanical machines.
>
> The group is called comp.ai.philosophy. Philosophy has room for
> sceptics.
> In any case, wanting to do something does not make it a fact that it is
> possible.

Right, we don't know if everything about human behavior can be explaned
mechanically.

But there's plenty of reason to insist that everything MUST be explained
mechanically in order to do the thing that many of us are here do -
understand the possibilities of AI.

And currently, there's no proof that everything that creates human behavior
can't be explained mechanically.

Those of us that want to create AI, are therefore going to make the
assumption that allows our goal to be reached. It's pointless to make any
other assumption - it would just be negative thinking to discourage us from
a goal which might be possible.

So instead, we assume there is a mechanical answer to everything, and look
at what that answer must be if it's there.

To solve AI, we insist on finding the mehchanical answer to all human
behavior, and all human experience, bucause to not find it, is to fail to
reach the goal.

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Curt Welch http://CurtWelch.Com/
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