Re: Qualia Question

"1Z" <peterdjones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Glen M. Sizemore wrote:
>
> > The point is, of course, that the implication of your post was that
> > Skinnerians argue that people do not have feelings or introspect, but
> > this is not what they argue. They argue that what is introspected is
> > behavior, and behavior is physical, though it is not a thing.
>
> Well, we don't introspect things like speech or gestures. I suppsoe
> they mean we introspect hormone levels and nerual firings -- which
> are indeed physical if not things. But we don't introspect them
> *as* such -- we feel anger, not "adrenalin" -- and that is the whole
> problem.

Then why don't you just say "I feel adrenalin"?

Why is saying "I feel angry" correct and "I feel adrenalin" incorrect?

What is it you are actually feeling when you sense that you are angry? Are
you sensing something physical, or are you sensing something non-physical?

The explanatroy gap is created by an error in our langauge. We defined a
langauge based on the idea that non-physical things (like anger) are real
and can exist, but yet, we defined them to be non-physical. That's where
we made the error. Anger is real, and it does exist, but it IS physical
(or the change in physcial stuff). When we "feel" stuff, we are just
sensing the physical state of the universe both inside and outside our
body.

The explanatory gap happens when you make the mistake of beliving you are
talking about something non physical when you say things like "I sense
anger".

This happens only because of errors in the definition of the words you are
using.

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