Re: type writers and tooth aches II



"JPL Verhey" <matterDELminds@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> "Curt Welch" <curt@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:20050718173925.944$rg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > "JPL Verhey" <matterDELminds@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> It was debated whether tooth aches are as physical as type writers.
> >> According to Skinner they are. To my own surprise I found myself in
> >> sudden and utter agreement with Skinner. What he once said, is indeed
> >> entirely correct.
> >>
> >> What Skinner probably didn't realise when he said it though, is that
> >> his
> >> type writer is as much an experiential phenomenon as is his tooth
> >> ache.
> >> What matters, is that all experiential phenomena are of the same
> >> "stuff" - the brain activity in his own skull.
> >
> > So you think Skinner didn't understand that the brain activity in our
> > skull
> > is what creates our experience? What on earth do you think he belived
> > created it?
>
> Btw..I am pretty sure that when Skinner talked about "physical" he meant
> not-experiential. When he talked about his type writer he didn't mean
> the experiential type writer in his head. But that was his mistake.
> (though it is a mistake that many physicalists make)

Do you not believe that there is something outside your head causing the
experience happening inside your head?

I've always believed in both. That is, our ability to understand physical
reality is limited to what happens inside our head - and our entire
understanding of our reality is limited to what can happen inside our head.
My reality is a virtual reality created inside my head. But at the same
time, my experience of reality makes it fairly clear that I do have a head,
and that everything that happens inside my head to let me know about some
aspects of reality, are being caused by effects in the universe outside of
my head (or more accurately, by the interaction between the stuff inside my
head with the stuff outside my head).

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