Fw: LINUX on the MAINFRAME



or anyone else that wants to jump in on this..
find it strange the osa gig speed not supported? >> can not find anything
as yet that says I can increase past 1500?


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Mark
So the MTU size can not be greater than 1500 ??
even when running OSA-Gig ??



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An equivalent for z/VM TPCPIP

DEVICE DEV@0620 OSD 0620 NONROUTER
LINK OSA1 QDIOETHERNET DEV@0620 MTU 1500 ETHERNET <---- For a Layer 2
transport
or
LINK OSA1 QDIOETHERNET DEV@0620 MTU 1500 IP <---- For a Layer 3
transport

On VM we do not have VTAM involvement so there is no TRLE.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Ron Wells <RWells@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

more looking...in z/OS tcpip parms.. I use following to setup Gig OSA...
SO >>anyone << what is the equivalent in VM tcpip or Vswitch ??

DEVICE DEVF800 MPCIPA PRIROUTER AUTORESTART
LINK LINKF800 IPAQGNET DEVF800







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just found out Linux>> per Linux guy>> 1492 is the mtu size he sees from
his image??
is there not a specification on Linux or ?? where you specify it as a
Gig
Ethr ?

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does anyone have any base numbers they could share...
(example)
We are shaking down z/VM 5.4-rsu0901-own lpar-4gig central/1.5
expanded..(1) IFL
All following Linux images are at SP3/(1) webshhere7(server pack unknow)
/
(1)DB2Connect Linux and couple others as test/devl images ...2gig for
each
image

Vswitch set for (1)OSA-E Gig ..

Hypersockets used between the Linux images/VM and z/OS(running in
seperate
lpar ).

The outbound traffic-OSAGig connect to a AS400(s) test at this point DB2
servers..

Was thinking something in Linux definition that could slow things down>>
like it's definition for OSAgig.?




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mpace58@xxxxxxxxx (Mark Pace) writes:
That is a very good point, John. Memory management on Linux for the
mainframe is counter-intuitive. When running under zVM you want as
little
memory as you can get away with, not as much as you can get. Most any
question you can think of has probably been covered ad-nausea on the
Linux-390 list.

this was discovered in the early 70s when apl\360 was ported to cp67/cms
for cms\apl. The apl\360 storage management and garbage collection
algorithm allocation a new storage location on every assignment. It very
quickly cycled thru all available workspace ... until it had exhausted
storage and then did garbage collection ... and then repeated. This
wasn't too bad with 16kbyte-32kbyte real storage workspaces that were
swapped in total every time ... but became disastrous in large virtual
memory paged environment. The apl\360 storage management and garbage
collection had to be redone for cms\apl for large virtual memory paged
environment.

I pointed this out again later in 70s with vs2 (svs & then mvs) ...
regarding running a "LRU" page replacement algorithm (least recently
used) in a virtual machine under a "LRU" page replacement algorihtm
(managing virtual machine memory as virtual paged memory). The scenario
was that the guest operating system in the virtual machine would be
trying to use the (virtual machine) page that had least recently been
used ... while the underlying vm operating system would have been
removing those very same virtual pages from real storage. There could be
extremely pathelogical characteristics where the virtual guest operating
system was always selecting the next virtual machine page to use
... that vm370 had just selected to be removed from memory.

misc. past posts mentioning having done page replacement algorithms
as undergraduate in the 60s.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock<
http://www.garlic.com/%7Elynn/subtopic.html#wsclock>

recent posts mentioning getting pulled into academic dispute
over page replacement algorithms in the early 80s (involving
whether or not to give somebody a stanford phd based on thier
work in the area):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#85<
http://www.garlic.com/%7Elynn/2010f.html#85>16:32 far pointers in
OpenWatcom
C/C++
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#22<
http://www.garlic.com/%7Elynn/2010g.html#22>Mainframe Executive article on
the death of tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#42<
http://www.garlic.com/%7Elynn/2010g.html#42>Interesting presentation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#68<
http://www.garlic.com/%7Elynn/2010g.html#68>What is the protocal for GMT
offset in SMTP (e-mail) header

the above mentions taking nearly a year to get management approval to
respond ... even tho it involved work that I had done as an
undergraduate (probably some petty punishment as opposed to management
taking sides in the academic dispute ... it was also after having
brought down the wrath of the MVS organization on my head).

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Mar1970

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