Re: 500 Pound Gorilla & Downsizing



The name wasn't too far off - see below.

I actually think P&H Mining save money after a couple of years when they got off the mainframe. The biggest factor involved in that was the existense of a running platform that was already running their sister company in another state. The project was supposed to take 18 months, and finally got done in 21 months. Also, a huge factor was the SAP system. For a long time SAP said if you merged your datacenters, you would have to pay all new licenses. Then, at some point, they said if you merger the 2 companies data, all on the same machine, we won't charge you for another SAP license. I don't know much more than that, but I know that played a big factor in getting rid of the mainframe. A unique set of circumstances, as I'm sure every company's decision to stay on the mainframe or get off of it.

Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted MacNEIL" <eamacneil@xxxxxxxx>

>I don't think so - as much as management would like to get rid of the >mainframe, they know that change is expensive. The budget to replace >everything is huge in the short term, and the short term is very >important to them.

I think you need to re-think that.
Ask Eric Bielefield (if I mis-spelled that, Eric, I appologise), me, and a few others that have been down-sized due to M/F re-engineering (euphemism) projects.

Regardless of the 'high' cost, it does happen.
Remember, politics can/does trump budgeting!

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