Re: unusual sentence in BrE?

the Omrud <usenet.omrud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
R H Draney <dadoctah@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Management makes a big deal of encouraging us to take all the leave
we're entitled to...then no matter what dates you ask to take it,
they respond "oh, no, we can't spare you *then*!...that's a very
busy time!"...

Since days can't be carried over from one year to the next, most
long-time employees disappear about mid-November, and even so I've
forfeited days each of the last four years....r
That's apparently not legal in California (and, I think, one or two
other states). Paid vacation is considered part of pay and, once
earned, can't be taken back. (Whenever companies institute "use it
or lose it" policies or put caps on the amount you can carry over,
there are "not applicable in California" notices.) What companies
can do instead is to decree that if you get above a certain amount
of unused vacation you stop earning more. Holidays don't work that
way, and at HP we have a "floating holiday" that each employee gets
to designate. With that one, if you don't use it it goes away.

In what way are other holidays not "floating"? I have six fixed days
as holidays (if that's the right number) and another 30 days which I
can designate.

The other holidays are not "floating" in the sense that the company
specifies the days on which they are granted. The remaining days are
vacation, not holidays, and we are free to take them at any time
that's agreeable to our bosses. "Holidays" are are days that the
company excuses you from working. "Vacation" is part of your
compensation, earned at so many hours per week as a promise to pay
during time you decide to take off. They really are different
categories, and they are treated different by the law.

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