Re: Usenet Legal Problems?

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:01:28 -0400, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote
(in article <bq1o166v.fsf@xxxxxxxxxx>):

John Varela <OLDlamps@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:12:35 -0400, J. J. Lodder wrote
(in article <1ij1k8p.12rlymy1h7mc8hN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):

Tell them now that you will end your subscription
when they no longer carry alt.* (non-binary)
Enough people doing that is the only way to make them see the light,

In the US, the price of a news server, if the ISP provides one, is not
separately stated, so there's no opting out of it without changing ISPs.
In the case of Verizon, they provide the best high speed connection
available to me. Their fiber optic Internet service is not a common
carrier. That means they can make themselves the exclusive ISP on the
fiber optic connection.

They can, but it's a lot of work. Do they really forbid connections
to port 119 on other servers? Yeah, you'd still wind up "paying for"
the non-separately-stated cost of access to Verizon's server, but
that's the same as for all of their customers who don't know that
Usenet exists.

They are the exclusive Internet Service Provider, which means I have to
log into their server to access the Internet. This is unlike dial-up,
where the voice telephone network is a common carrier. You can dial into
any ISP anywhere over the common carrier network. Ditto for DSL, since
its signals pass through the common carrier network.

Since all my Internet communications pass through Verizon's server, they
could block port 119 if they wanted to, but there has been no indication
other than panicky speculation on news groups that they are going to do
that.

--
John Varela
Trade NEW lamps for OLD for email.

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