Re: Homeopathich dose

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 03:05:31 -0700 (PDT), Citizen Jimserac
<Jimserac@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 1, 12:38 am, "John Holmes" <see...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
CitizenJimseracwrote:

I understand your position perfectly
and I share your skepticism though
not your conclusions!

Let us allow scientific research
rather than innuendo or the likes
of Ben Goldacre or the "amazing" Randi, to decide.

That is a thoroughly dishonest thing to say. James Randi has put up
money precisely with the object of saying "let the scientific evidence
decide". And Ben Goldacre is primarily a writer who explains to the
masses what the scientific evidence shows.

In any case, this is way off-topic for alt.usage.english. Why don't you
take it over to sci.sceptic?

--
Regards
John
for mail: my initials plus a u e
at tpg dot com dot au

Excuse me, but the "amazing" Randi's $1,000,000
challenge is a PUBLICITY STUNT, not
scientific research. I don't believe
that ANYBODY is ever going to collect
a CENT from Randi for ANYTHING.

Whether it is or is not a publicity stunt, Randi's challenge
does not claim to be scientific research:
http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

...we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can
show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any
paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF
does not involve itself in the testing procedure, other than
helping to design the protocol and approving the conditions
under which a test will take place. All tests are designed
with the participation and approval of the applicant. In
most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a
relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if
successful, will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary
tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the
site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the
preliminary testing process, the "applicant" becomes a
"claimant."

To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.

If anyone succeeds in demonstrating paranormal, supernatural or
occult power or event scientific research would follow to try to
understand the phenomenon.

Anyway, I may be mistaken, but I don't think anyone is claiming
that homeopathy is paranormal, supernatural or occult; I suspect
that mainstream homeopathists would be annoyed at such a claim.

You are welcome to come to his defense
in some other thread!

Citizen Jimserac

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
.

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