Re: Marmite Crisps - Slightly pregnant

"Django Cat" <notareal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

However, I have been really surprised in this thread by the amount
of intolerant and stereotyping reaction about vegetarians and
vegetarianism - in several cases from RRs whose opinions and insight
I value. I've also been very surprised that we're even having this
conversation in 2008. Doesn't everybody have veggie friends and
acquaintances? Isn't it just as unremarkable, where you are, that a
colleague on a night out has the veggie option,

That depends. If it's just choosing a dish that's vegetarian-friendly
because that sounds the best that day of the things on the menu, it's
unremarkable. I do it myself, reasonably frequently. If it involves
mentioning (or, too often, complaining) that _the_ veggie option is
"the only thing you can eat", it becomes noticeable. When choices of
where a group goes involve the question "Is there anything there Tom
can eat?" it can become a bit annoying. But mostly it's taken in
stride.

At the risk of sounding bloody-minded and pig-headed, not to mention
bringing mb down on me again, food is either vegetarian or it isn't.
It's about food being prepared using meat-based ingredients, not
about whether or not an ant's leg dropped off while it was crawling
across your nut cutlet or there are wasp eggs on your apple. We
also had some weird stuff about vegetarians not eating food
*touched* by animals or people - I think that's a different group of
folks entirely.

But I've known more than a few vegetarians who had the same sort of
"contagion" notion that people who keep strictly kosher and have two
sets of dishes do. And it doesn't seem to be either uncommon or
specifically American. For instance:

Another thing a vegetarian has to watch and often has to trust is
how they cook your food. Some restaurants advertise and sell so
called vegetarian food, yet use the same utensils that have just
been in contact with meat. Fried food could be cooked in the same
fat as say fish. It shouldn't happen if the product is actually
marked up "Vegetarian", but you are still going on a certain
amount of trust. It's often best to actually tell the restaurant
you are vegetarian and ask them if your food is cooked separately.

http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/discussion/vegetarian-labelling/421445/

Can anyone recommend good, CHEAP restaurants (counter-style is
fine) for a vegetarian inside the parks? This is for someone who
will eat eggs and dairy, but won't eat any other animal products,
including a veggie burger that was cooked on the same grill as a
hamburger.

....but I'd say that you're right about risking cross
contamination with a veggie burger. Salads can even be suspect if
the same utensils are used.

http://www.talkdisney.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23977

The vegetarian items at the food court, such as veggie burgers and
grilled cheese that must be grilled on demand, cannot be
considered vegetarian if grilled on the same surface where several
meat products have been grilled, using the same utensils for meat
and vegetarian products.

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