Re: "and me" vs. "and I"
- From: "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 31 Aug 2006 15:23:26 -0700
The Grammer Genious wrote:
"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The Grammer Genious wrote:
"Steve MacGregor" <esperantujo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Tommo wrote:
But I have heard a few examples recently of statements not following
this format. Can anyone clarify for me please?
Statements not using this format are ungrammatical, and unfortunately,
very common.
Rather, they are currently considered ungrammatical according to the
grammar
in current favor. They are perfectly grammatical in other grammars in
widespread use by educated native speakers.
Which is of no help _whatever_ to somebody asking the question. <...>
Not only is it a LOT more help than a pat pronouncement, it's also the only
honest answer.
Nonsense. It left the enquirer with no information useful for anything
but Linguistics 101. He asked for clarification of real-life usage. You
chose to muddy the waters.
Keeping information from the learner and dolloping out half-truths is not a
help. It's a hindrance. Trust me.
I don't quite see why I should trust you on this subject: you seem to
have little awareness of the needs of language-learners. I spent
several years in charge of a successful EFL department, and still
retain a clear understanding of the difference between theory and
practice. My advice, which you snipped, was practical and impeccable.
--
Mike.
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