Re: Phil's Subversion (Formerly "With" or "by")


"Purl Gurl" <purlgurl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Chess One wrote:

Here is another poster who objects to discussing word usage based on any
other words than he knows personally. He doesn't say anything about
him[her?]self that would clarify his opinion nor his behavior - except to
display an evident resentment of anyone who knows other than he does, and
although I asked him to clarify himself, instead he wants me to treat him
cordially for writing mean abusive screeds with the usual shock-you
words.

This seems a majority attitude in this newsgroup.

I don't agree. It only seems that way :(

What is odd is that people seem to think that words can be specifics, rather
than general terms, and actually gain meaning by being less precise, by
means of the other words around them.

I should stop since otherwise I will get too far into Heisenberg and Godel,
and factors which relate to greater complexity in systems being less
predictable.

I think my general sense is that such definitions that people make here are
okay, except that there is a very low ceiling to what may be expressed by
them - and some flights are necessary to actually express anything more
complex, meaningful or indeed, interesting.

I am always stupefied by
those whose worlds are so very tiny, and so very narrowly dogmatic. When
I read this type of attitude, "Taliban" most often comes to my part Anglo
mind.

In my native tongue, "anumpa apesa" which is in simple literal, "to
dictate words."

Our "anumpa apesa" also means "dictator" in Anglo speak, but in our native
tongue meaning runs much deeper, and is amongst the worst of offenses
against
all peoples.

interesting that 'dictator' literally means s/he who tell others what to
say, or how to say it

"panshasha alakna anumpa apesa" - yellow haired dictator - General Custer


"On November 27, 1868, he led an attack on Black Kettle's band of Southern
Cheyenne
even though Black Kettle had always given in to the demands of the U.S.
Government and
was flying the white flag of truce on the morning of Custer's attack.
Custer's men slaughtered
the Southern Cheyenne and all of their animals."

- Montana Kids Com

That is an attitude often expressed here; kill the infidels and their
things.

To the dead red man.

[My young men shall never work. Men who work cannot dream, and wisdom comes
in dreams,' Smohalla, Nez Percé Indians]


there is an advantage
outside mainstream sensibility,
outside grim towered factory units
crammed with resentful defeated slaves

it is a peculiar engine which made it
and which works it to death
knowing no darkfish waifs
who stare undercloud
into an otherworld

phil

Purl Gurl


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