Re: Heinlein

From: "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:46:49 -0000

Daniel al-Autistiqui wrote:
[...]
> But, regarding the phrase, do you guys think it is redundant? Can it
> even be taken literally? Could one argue that it is not redundant
> based on the fact that the first "strange" refers to a person and the
> second one refers to a place?

Well, I thought that it probably wasn't redundant, for the reason you
give. The only way to decide is to look at the Hebrew text, and I don't
know Hebrew. But you could be right in suggesting that we shouldn't take
it too literally: these legends do come from back in the Bronze Age or
before, after all. Perhaps those who first wrote down Exodus were only
guessing when they offered the "stranger in a foreign/strange land"
explanation for the name "Gershom".

--
Mike.

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