Re: pronounciation of 'tzaddik'



"jerry_friedman@xxxxxxxxx" wrote:
>
> zbihniew wrote:
> > Uzytkownik jerry_friedman@xxxxxxxxx napisal:
> >
> > > zbihniew wrote:
> > >
> > >>Would you pronounce it with the affricate 'ts' like in 'pizza' /pI[ts]@/
> > >>- ie. /[ts]&dIk/ or with seperate sound 't' and 's' or maybe just as
> > >>/z&dIk/ or something? Please tell me also (if you were so kind) what
> > >>kind of English you use.
> > >
> > >
> > > With the sound of pizza, /'[ts]AdIk/ (that's A as in "father", "i" as
> > > in "bit", probably hard to tell from /@/).
> >
> > What I mean by "&" is A from "father" and I is from "bit" - as far as I
> > can remember, I took the signs from http://alt-usage-english.org/.
> > @ represents schwa.
>
> /&/ is as in "ampersand" or "cat". You're right about the others.
> >
> > Hmm... I wonder how an English speaker with no Hebrew experience would
> > pronounce the 'ts' because at Merriam Webster there's a recording in
> > which the voice uses seperate sounds. By the way, I've just found out
> > that dictionaries tell one to pronounce "pIt-s@" with "t" and "s" as
> > seperate sounds, not an affricate.
>
> Actually /'pit s@/ (the first vowel is that of "sheep").
>
> I'm not aware of any differences in the ways I pronounce /ts/ in
> "tzaddik", "pizza", "rats", or "hot sauce",
>
Put hand in front of mouth to check for aspiration with the initial /ts/
as opposite to other possibilities.



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