Re: Suggesting Toshiba makes more money on each PS3 than Sony is ludicrous

On Dec 19, 3:21 pm, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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ninphan <sjburk...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The Sharp found out how to do it too. It's fluid with menus and the
majority of discs load up in less than 20 seconds.
As for the price of the discs, I know full well why they are cheap. It
took me a hell of a lot longer than 12 months to rack up 108 DVD's!
I don't see "many" of them having troubles with the new discs. One or
two of the Samsung models and the Sony models. The Pioneer loads up
nicely and is smooth, the Panny's all play well and blu-ray.com
recently got to test out the profile 1.1 title "Resident Evil:
Extinction" from Sony on the PlayStation 3 showing how it indeed works
well with the 1.1 discs. They then showed it on the DMP-BD10 and it
played fine there as well, the disc detected the player was a grace
profile player and simply omitted in the menu the option for the PIP.
This whole slow thing is blown out of proportion - you'd swear most
people were noobs that have never bought into a format early before.
HD DVD is built on existing technology, it's embarrassing that they
had so many problems despite this.
Blu-ray is built on new technology and shouldn't have launched until
this year or early 2008, but with Toshiba forcing the BDA's hand with
their rogue format, the profile mess is perfectly understandable.
By the time the average consumer buys into Blu-ray, these problems
will only be remembered by shills like "rdjam", Edward Downer (rdjam's
brother) and Amir Majidimehr, still claiming that HD DVD is the
superior format and despite Universal going neutral in 2008 and Warner
dropping HD DVD altogether within the next year they will still
venture that "big BD studios are going HD DVD exclusive, just you wait
and see" ad naseum

Glad to see Sharp got it right too. I hadn't read about that one much.

What Warner will or won't do next year is pure speculation on your part.
There is no plausible source that claims to know, nor is Warner talking.

Really glad to see that the 1.1 profile support I downloaded yesterday
will work. Frankly I wish that DTS-HD MA support had been there too.
Barring that, I'd just as soon see Fox change to TrueHD and let DTS-HD
MA just die. No reason for it to take this long to get bitstream only
output of that codec, and certainly no reason for no software decoders
either. And while the 1.5Mbps DTS core bitstream is nice, lossless is
better, imo.

For my money, I'd like to see HDDVD hang in there another year to keep
the pricing pressure on and then either fade away or win. Either way is
fine with me.

And yes, HDDVD was built on existing technology, which should have been
a huge plus. Unfortunately, it was just a plus, allowing them to bring
full featured players to market sooner than the BD guys could.

And I agree, BD should not have come out when it did, it wasn't ready by
a long shot. But sometimes you get your hand forced. If BD didn't come
out then, it wouldn't be here now.- Hide quoted text -

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What Warner will or won't do is speculation on my part based on
conversations I've had with my peers at the HD Media office at Warner.
It's not a plausible source of course, because names cannot be
revealed. Nor would anyone there be privvy to what Time Warner is
thinking and what they decide, Warner Bros., HBO and New Line will
have to follow. As Time Warner is on the BDA's board of directors and
all their day and date titles have sold better on Blu-ray (despite
being handicapped in the audio in some cases and in the interactivity
department on others) as well as the knowledge that the difference in
cost is "negligible" according to Richard Casey, president and
executive producer of R&B Films and that TW has patents in Blu-ray
disc technology, the logical choice would not be to continue to
support both formats and see continued slow adoption, but rather to
support one format in an effort to convince the general public that
it's safe to pick a format. No-one will come forward any make any
announcement of the sort until it happens. This is evident in the fact
that nobody saw the Paramount buy-out happening until the Viacom press
release was already out!

I am glad Fox is sticking with dts-MA. It gives people with no analog
outputs or HDMI audio-enabled receiver the best possible multi-channel
audio through optical or digital coaxial and also allows for the same
codec to provide lossless. It is more efficient than TrueHD as well,
using less bandwidth. Bitstreaming of dts-MA has been out on some
models of players for two months now and decoders have been out since
April 2007 when the TX-SR605 Onkyo was released. The manufacturers
just need to put an SoC in the players now that will either allow for
bitstreaming of dts-MA or decoding. In the case of the PS3 it will
have to be decoding. Fox have been long supporters of dts and their
day and date DVD's often have both Dolby and dts 5.1 tracks on them. I
don't see their support of dts changing anytime soon and when the
PlayStation 3 finally gets dts-MA decoding, which it most certainly
will according to the people I speak with at dts, it will be worth it.

The PS3 is an audio powerhouse - it uses 5 SPE's in the SACD process;
3 for DTS decompression to DSD and two for DSD > PCM decimation,
resulting in an amazing 24/176.4 multi-channel output through HDMI
only using nothing but the Cell processor. I too wish they'd hurry up
though. It's one of the only serious faults of the PlayStation 3 at
this moment in time.

Your last paragraph is redundant.
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