Creating HD-DVDs and Blu-ray disks with TivoToGo using DVD media




Creating HD-DVDs and Blu-ray disks with TivoToGo using DVD media...
You can create HD-DVD and Blu-ray compatible disks in a matter of minutes using high-definition recordings transferred from the TivoHD or Series3.

You do not need a HD-DVD or Blu-ray writer; you can do this using standard DVDs. You can do this because both high-definition formats support high-definition playback from DVD media.

Requirements

1. Windows PC

2. TivoHD or Tivo Series3

3. Tivo Desktop 2.5.1 (free)

4. PC DVD writer

5. 4.7Gb and/or 8.5Gb DVD-R and DVD+R blanks (stick to DVD-R if using an Xbox360)

6. VideoRedo ($49.99, but 14-day free trial available)

7. HD Patch (freeware)

8. Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus ($79.99, but 30-day free trial available) or Nero v8.

Ulead's DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus is by far the best software for creating HD-DVD compatible DVDs, but it requires a $20 plug-in to create Blu-ray compatible DVDs. Be sure to download and install both updates for Ulead MovieFactory 6 Plus before you start.

Nero v8 can also be used to create Blu-ray compatible DVDs. It will do this out of the box, but it will not create HD-DVD compatible DVDs.


To play HD-DVD compatible DVDs, you'll need a Toshiba HD-DVD player or the Xbox360 HD-DVD add-on. If you don't have a HD-DVD player, you can also test playback on your PC using software such as WinDVD or PowerDVD.

To play the Blu-ray compatible DVDs, you need a Sony PS3, Sony BDP-S1, Sony BDP-S300, or Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 Blu-ray player. Other Blu-ray players do not support these disks.


Instructions for Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus

1. Download a high-definition recording from your TiVo. Screenshot #1, #2.

2. Launch VideoRedo, click 'Open Video,' and select the .Tivo recording from your Tivo Recordings folder. Screenshot.

3. If your Tivo recording has commercials, select Ad-Detective -> Start Ad-Detective Scan in VideoRedo to automatically mark all commercials for removal. Click Save As.. in VideoRedo to save the recording without commercials to your hard drive in .MPG format. Screenshot.

4. Open the .MPG in HDPatch. If the reported Bitrate is more than 25000000 (25Mbps), then change it to 25000000 and click "Patch Stream." If the reported Bitrate is less than 25000000, no change is required and you can exit the app. Screenshot.

5. Launch ULead DVD Movie Factory Plus and choose "New Video Project." Screenshot.

For HD-DVD compatible DVDs: From the "Create Video Disk" dialog, choose HD-DVD.

For Blu-ray compatible DVDs: From the "Create Video Disk" dialog, choose AVCHD.
Note: This involves a time-consuming re-encode to MPEG-4 AVC.

For Blu-ray using BD-R media: From the "Create Video Disk" dialog, choose Blu-ray and BDMV.

6. Click the "Add video files" button (second icon, top left) and select the the .MPG file you saved in step four. If Movie Factory asks you to change the project settings to match the video, select yes. Screenshot.

7. Click Next.

8. Select a title screen template (just like Powerpoint). Right-click to edit the title and text on the title screen. Screenshot.

9. Click Next.

10. Click "Burn" to create the disk. Screenshot.


Instructions for Nero v8 (Blu-ray compatible DVDs only; does not do HD-DVD compatible DVDs)

1. Download a high-definition recording from your TiVo. Screenshot #1, #2.

2. Launch VideoRedo, click 'Open Video,' and select the .Tivo recording from your Tivo Recordings folder. Screenshot.

3. If your Tivo recording has commercials, select Ad-Detective -> Start Ad-Detective Scan in VideoRedo to automatically mark all commercials for removal. Click Save As.. in VideoRedo to save the recording without commercials to your hard drive in .MPG format. Screenshot.

4. Open Nero Vision and select Make DVD -> AVCHD.

5. On the right, select the type of media you will be using (DVD or DVD-9)

6. Click "Add Video Files..." and browse to the MPG you created in step #3. Alternatively, you can drag and drop the MPG created into the window.

7. Hit the More >> button and click Video Options.

In Video Options, select the AVCHD tab and click the "Configure Encoder..." button -- select High Quality or Highest Quality (depending on what you want). On the AVCHD tab, also select "High Quality (2-Pass VBR)" as the encoding mode. Click OK to close Video Options.

8. If you want to select a menu design, click Next. Otherwise, Check "Create chapters automatically."

9. Click Next.

10. Select a menu template (if you want one).

11. Click Next.

12. Select Burn to disk.


No re-encoding is necessary when creating HD-DVD compatible DVDs and Blu-ray disks with Ulead DVD MovieFactory, so disks can be created in as little as 10-15 minutes, depending on the speed of your PC and DVD/BD burner. Recording quality with these HD-DVD compatible DVDs is 100% identical to what you saw with your TiVo.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Blu-ray authoring on DVD in MovieFactory or Nero. Movie Factory6 Plus will burn recordings from the TiVo to Blu-ray media without re-encoding, but for DVD, both Nero and MovieFactory require a very time-consuming conversion to MPEG-4 AVC. The recordings remain high-definition, but quality is not quite as good as the original source file. There is one benefit of this conversion to MPEG-4 AVC with Nero-- it allows you to fit high-definition recordings on disk that would not otherwise fit with MPEG-2, such as movies from Hdnet.


Important Note

When creating HD-DVD compatible disks with MovieFactory6 Plus, all recordings must total 4.38Gb (or less) for burning to a single-layer 4.7Gb DVD or 7.96Gb (or less) for burning to a dual-layer 8.5Gb DVD. If you want to fit more than that on a single disk, you'll need a Blu-ray or HD-DVD writer and more expensive media.

Most high-definition movies from HBO-HD, Cinemax-HD, SHO-HD, TMC-HD, STARZ-HD, and Universal-HD will fit on a single 8.5Gb DVD.

The average broadcast and cable network has 18-21 minutes of commercials per hour, so once you've automatically removed commercials with VideoRedo, one-hour programs from those channels will require about 1/3 less space.

Typical space consumed per 60 minutes (with commercials) of HDTV:

ABC - 4.4-6.50 Gb (varies by content and provider)
CBS - 6.0-8.0Gb (varies by content and provider)
NBC - 5.2-8.0 Gb (varies by content and provider)
FOX - 4.4-5.0 Gb (up to 5.6Gb for sports)

HBO - 4.4-4.8 Gb
Cinemax - 4.4-4.8 Gb
Showtime - 4.4-4.8 Gb
Starz - 3.5-4.0 Gb

UHD - 4.0-5.0 Gb
Discovery - up to 8.0Gb (varies widely by provider )
Hdnet - up to 8.0Gb (varies widely by provider )
Hdnet Movies - up to 8.0Gb (varies widely by provider )
TNT - up to 8.0Gb (varies widely by provider )

Questions

1. Why do you call this "creating HD-DVD disks with DVD media?" Shouldn't you call it "Copying HD to DVD?"

The DVD-ROM standard does not support high-definition playback. Today, there are two industry standards for high-definition playback on DVD -- HD DVD and BDMV.

HD DVD isn't just media. It's a standard developed by the DVD Forum for storing and playing high-definition files on media. Standard DVDs (officially called 3XDVD) is one of the disk choices defined by the HD DVD specification.

In the early years, the HD DVD ROM format was expected to use standard DVDs with advanced codecs like AVC and WM9 (now called VC-1). It wasn't until later that the DVD Forum decided to adopt Toshiba's AOD disk format instead of Blu-ray and use that as the basis for HD DVD rather than standard DVD media. But they left DVD in as a part of the HD DVD standard, calling it 3XDVD.

There are a number of different HD DVD authoring applications. In all of them, you select the HD DVD format first and the disk size second. Until Sony announced they would make DVD an option for its Blu-ray Disk Movie (BDMV) format, HD DVD was the one and only standard for storing high-definition content on DVD.


2. I have a Sony Upconverting DVD player. Using the steps above, will these disks play on my upconverting player?

Unfortunately, no. Standard DVD players will not play disks authored in HD-DVD format, regardless of the media used.

Upconverting DVD players do not have the hardware necessary to decode high-definition. Decoding high-definition is very different from upconverting standard definition. Upconverting standard definition is incredibly cheap to do; decoding high-definition is more expensive.

To playback full high-definition from DVD, you must have a HD-DVD player, a Blu-ray player like the PS3, or the appropriate playback software on your PC.


3. Why didn't you include instructions for a Mac?

My Mac is too old to do this type of thing, hence I don't have instructions for that platform.

If someone else can post Mac instructions, I will add them to this topic.


4. When will Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus directly support Tivo files, eliminating the need to load recordings in VideoRedo first?

According to one forum member, this feature is coming in the next release of MovieFactory Plus.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5627029#post5627029
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