Re: How Do I Know if My HDMI is HDCP or Not?

On 3 Mar 2006 22:02:52 -0800, "G-squared" <stratus46@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Karyudo wrote:
On 3 Mar 2006 12:42:22 -0800, "G-squared" <stratus46@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


The Man Behind The Curtain wrote:
Karyudo wrote:
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:35:56 -0500, Thumper <jaylsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

...at least we had HD years ahead of others.

Except the Japanese, who have had it since 1989. Analog, but no copy
protection and every movie shown on TV in widescreen OAR. Mmm...

Yeah, well, in case you haven't noticed, for the last 15 years or so the
Japanese and Europeans, particularly the Germans and Scandinavians, have
had so many things before us. Just last night I saw a report on the
opening of a new bullet train in Japan that goes 250 mph, and reports on
super-fast but affordable cars being developed in Germany for use in
Europe only. Cutting-edged surgeries like the type that used to be done
in the United States are now done overseas. More and more new
technology is coming their way first. Per capita, more of their
children go to college, and it is more affordable for them to go to college.

We are no longer the "leader" in anything. Except propaganda. We are
very good at getting the message out that America is the envy of the
world. Only go talk to "the world" and you get a different picture.


I don't see you leaving......

GG

And I don't see you workin' on fixing what's broke, so what's your
point? A man ain't allowed to make a valid observation -- especially a
negative one -- about the country he no doubt loves? How else is
anything going to change for the better, other than by ordinary people
recognizing flaws and agitating for them to be fixed?

1: You wouldn't see what I'm working on here.
2: I don't think it IS a valid observation. Europe has it's own bunch
of problems. How about unemployment? 10%+. Haven't they just announced
they (UK and Germany at least) are ABOUT to get HDTV? No cutting edge
there. With the knucklehead drivers over here, do you WANT superfast
cars?
3: Complaining without offering a possible solution is just
complaining. It just sounds like one of the 'hate America first' guys.
Its always OUR fault because we're the bad guys. I don't buy it.

have a nice day
GG

This is the wrong place for this sort of discussion, but I just can't
help myself.

1: True.

2. I think a lot of what you've written could be viewed as part of the
"propaganda" the OP mentioned. OF COURSE Europe has its own bunch of
problems. But that's no reason not to look at the things they do right
and try to emulate them. I don't know about unemployment, but 10+%
sounds high. You're welcome to provide data, but for the moment let's
remove that red herring from the equation and concentrate on TVs and
cars.

Europe (especially the UK and Germany!) is coming to HD from free (and
pay) 576p digital OTA and FTA satellite that can be received with
cheap equipment, all built to the existing DVB standard. Maybe you can
see why they're not in as much of a rush to get HD as us analog 480i
have-to-pay-Dish NTSC users? Compared to the NTSC users in Korea and
Japan, North America is sucking hind teat.

And as for cars, considering that licensing requirements are much
stricter in most European countries, it seems eminently reasonable
that they be allowed to drive more quickly. In their newer fleet of
cars -- the average age of a car in Europe is lower than in the USA,
so more cars have more safety engineered into them. At least I don't
see stories of their 16 year-old kids dying in illegal street races.

See? Nothing is quite as black and white as a simple Usenet post can
make it seem.

3. One of the things the OP is complaining about is that the solutions
are more readily apparent to anyone willing to ignore the "propaganda"
and "go talk to 'the world". To me, that *is* suggesting a way
forward: don't be so quick to simple boosterism, and actually actively
keep an eye on and learn from places other than the US.

I'm not an angry guy. I'm not even pissed off at you, specifically.
But I think the OP deserves a more rational discussion than the
suggestion that he pack up his ideas and leave if he don't like it how
it is. Change happens; may as well make it for the better.

.

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