Re: HDTV Connection

In article <dfht5102hjh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <phil-news-nospam@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:07:47 -0400 Jeff Rife <wevsr@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>| (phil-news-nospam@xxxxxxxx) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
>
>|> | No, it means you didn't bother to read the documentation for the entire
>|> | product: hardware plus software. It also means you don't even begin to
>|> | understand how these things actually work.
>|>
>|> I'm not looking for software ... just hardware.
>|
>| Have fun writing drivers without documentation, then.
>
>This is one reason I didn't want it in the form of a PCI card. A device
>that interfaces to a computer through another serial means, such as a
>fastethernet, or USB, or Firewire, would have been more desired since
>generic drivers to send and receive such bit streams already exist in
>Linux. Drivers for a unique PCI card would be more difficult to write.
>Even if provided drivers for Linux come in source code, they could very
>well have lots of ATSC-isms, and TV-isms, in them, that I would have to
>strip out to get the behaviour I want (which is to leave the bit stream
>totally unchanged).

Actually, they don't get in the way. You could have a look at the bttv
project, which pulls the raw transport streams off a variety of
different cards, DVB-S, DVB-C and DVB-T, all using the same interface. I
beleive they also handle the 8VSB cards too, although I have no
experience in that.

>I suspect these "TV tuner cards" also have analog capability. That is
>something I do not need. But it's no big loss if that is there, as long
>as the existance of "something TV" in the hardware triggers the rule
>of honoring the broadcast flag to apply.

No, analogue tuner cards and digital tuner cards are quite seperate
beasts.

>But what you have said sure indicates no "crack" is needed ... it will just
>fall apart on its own :-)

Except that selling hardware or software that deliberately ignores the
broadcast flag would be illegal in the US under the terms of the DMCA.

>| You can bitch and moan about not wanting to read it, or you can read it
>| and have a solution to your problem in your hands in less than a week.
>
>I've already learned that all discussion with you and your twin sociopath
>will never, ever, produce any useful information.

I'm with him on this. The AVSforum is extremely useful and full of
threads on all sorts of topics in the areas you seem to be interested.
It might not be in your preferred format, but it's certainly packed full
of useful things and IMHO it's worth investing time in reading threads
there. And the best way to find what threads are there is to go in via
the topic menus.

>Maybe I am. But I sure as hell know I won't ever get help from an ***
>like you.
[[...]
>Suggest some terms that I have not already tried.

Strikes me as not the best way to get him to help you to me...

Ralf.
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