Re: Biggest Mistake List




"Kenny Blankenship" <blank@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <cqlhs5t5a4criaboco92d5c87ijm0j5pir@xxxxxxx>,
shawn <nanoflower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:23:23 -0700, "AL000" <noem@xxxxxx> wrote:

I really thought we'd seen all the extremely stupid moves before
and figured Jeff's tease on last week's show would fall flat. I
never could have predicted a move like JT's. I still have to rank
James and Erik's moves as the dumbest ever but I think this is
probably right behind those. Agree? Disagree?

It's definitely up there. If it ends up causing JT to be booted then
that will move it up near the top but I agree that James and Erik
have the biggest mistakes so far. The only way this might have topped
them is if JT had given him the HII and then been booted in the same
episode due to that gift.

James is still number one in my book. Two immunity idols, three tribal
councils where he can use them and a decent chance of winning one of the
next two immunity challenges and he doesn't play the idol! The term
"Hubris" springs to mind. The other players knew, knew absolutely that
if they didn't vote James out then (or at least make him play one of the
idols), he was guaranteed to make the finale. Not playing one of his
idols was stupid, stupid, stupid.

JT (and the rest of the Heros tribe) comes in at number two (and it's
close, James and JT can swap rankings depending on my mood at the time).
JT came up with a plan to give away a major advantage in the game in
order to hopefully help someone on the other tribe that he doesn't know,
hasn't had any significant interaction with and was ranked one of the
five worst villains in the shows history.

Unlike Dalton Ross, the outcome of the move doesn't factor into my
rankings. If someone makes a really stupid move but lucks out, that
doesn't negate the stupidity of the move. For example, if a guy loses
his job and decides to mortgage his house past its value, max out all of
his credit (cards and other credit), borrow as much money from friends
and family as he can and buy lottery tickets with it -- is STUPID with a
capital STUPID. The fact that he lucks out and wins the lottery doesn't
negate how stupid doing that is. JT brought a gun to a knife fight, then
gave it to his opponent! That's epic level stupid.

Watching the Survivor Insider videos this week was hilarious, watching
the Heros go on about how brilliant the move was and how they have
Russell in their pocket and how this is going to work for them so well
was classic.

Erik doesn't even make the top five for me. Erik was stupid to trust
Natalie but the plan to give up immunity wasn't his idea. James wasn't
talked into not playing one of his idols, JT wasn't convinced to hand
over his hidden immunity idol. Erik got played, he trusted someone he
shouldn't have trusted. Trusting Natalie may not have been a good idea
but you have to trust people in this game at times so I don't feel that
it's fair to rank Erik's decision to trust her as one of the Five
Stupidest Moves.

Ian deciding to make a deal with Tom to drop out of the challenge if Tom
DOESN'T take him to the final two comes in at third place. The only
reason this doesn't rank as number one is because Ian effectively quit
the game.

But Colby deciding to take Tina rather than Keith actally cost him the GAME.
There is no way he would have lost to Keith in front of the jury. That move
cost him $900,000. The James and Erik mistakes resulted in them having to
leave the game, but it's unlikely either had much of a shot at winning.
They might have lost $10K to $20K by delaying their departure, but Colby's
mistake was close to a million dollar error.

The only comparable error I can think of (and it doesn't even make most
"Biggest Survivor Mistake" lists) was Rafe releasing Danni from her promise
to take him to the finals. Had Rafe held Danni to the promise, we don't
know for a fact that she still would have taken him over Stephanie. But
it's quite possible she would have, and Rafe would probably have made a
better case to the jury as to why he played more effectively than Danni.



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