Re: NC: Sheriffs want lists of patients using painkillers

On Sep 14, 10:32 pm, realpch <real...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:46 am, comadrejo <comadrejoa...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<c0ffb9cf-f165-42d0-ac0e-02db4407e...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
 "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  Doctors are becoming terrified to even
prescribe narcotics (the friend I watched die of cancer, using Tylenol
3 because the doc was worried that he would get addicted to morphine,
comes to my mind).  They will be able to harrass the law abiding
citizens, and that's it.

 This is so stupid.  There is nothing wrong being physically addicted to
morphine under a physician's supervision.  (Under medical supervision is
the important part)  

Not according to the DEA, apparently, and the sheriffs in SC

What causes all the problems is when the morphine/opiod is stopped or
cut off, while still physically dependent.  This isn't going to happened
with a terminal cancer patient with a prescription, or in end of life
stage in a hospital or hospice stage, with a morphine drip.

Except that it *has* happened to patients with genuine need.  The DEA
"goes after" a doctor (which is where they get their lists from, docs
have to file paperwork for every schedule 2 narcotic that is
prescribed by their office), saying they are going to audit, and even
the reputable docs will stop prescribing, because they are worried
that there might be *something* amiss in the records.

Check out the chronic pain groups.  This is a pretty hot topic there,
right now.

  There are physicians who specialize in pain management, especially for
terminal cancer patients.  Your friend should had been referred to pain
management specialist.    The era of "walk it off" is over, besides
there are other drugs to be used other than morphine for pain management.

and those same doctors, in many states, refuse to prescribe oxycodone/
oxycontin to their chronic pain patients.  Terminal patients have it a
little better, once they are in hospice.  If you need an 'oxy' script
or something stronger, good luck.

  One reason I can see a physician act like, of not prescribing
narcotics, is they are worried about the DEA not renewing his or her
license, or they had problems or previous complaints to the physician's
state medical board.  However, If the physician is paranoid about this,
your friend should had been referred to another doctor, especially to an
oncologist.

It was the hospital oncologist.  He suffered the whole time, until he
died.  You see, the DEA isn't just going after questionable doctors,
or docs who have had complaints.  They are going after *any* doctor
who prescribes narcotics, and if every "t" isn't crossed and "i"
dotted, they lose their license (and yes, it is that nitpicky).  There
are doctors who work for the DEA who have printed papers in journals
saying that *no* pain should be treated with narcotics (another
popular topic in the cp groups).

Really. What do they suggest as an alternative? Aspirin?

You know, I got so angry reading the paper that I stopped. I seem to
recall someone saying that a combination of psychotherapy and anti-
depressants "should" be sufficient, was the final analysis. I'll see
if I can find the article again.
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