Re: Fort Hood Investigators Focus on Motive



"realpch" <realpch@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:4AF61EBB.997CBA91@xxxxxxxxxx
Kris Baker wrote:

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Kris Baker wrote:
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> >>>> This is only the first half of the story at link. I can't decide > >>>> if I
> >>>> agree with Kris, that the guy was just nutty, or with Comj, who > >>>> said
> >>>> the guy was just a cowardly ay aitch (ahem, paraphrasing here). > >>>> Maybe
> >>>> both?
> >>>> jc
> >>>> ---
> >>>
> >>> I don't think he was *nutty*. I think he has a similar ideology as > >>> a
> >>> suicide bomber.
> >>>
> >>> bella
> >>
> >> This is probably the only time I'm gonna agree with td.
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> >> Chocolic
> >
> > I think earthage was similarly inclined, or thought about it anyway. > > I'm
> > not sure myself.
> >
> > jc
>
> If you believe that this is ideological, shouldn't *any*
> person who commits an act of terrorism or mass killing
> with a religious connection, have the same tag applied
> to their crime?
>
> What about Timothy McVeigh? He hung out with the charismatic
> Christians at Elohim City, and one of the Elohim faithful was
> with him when he purchsed weapons at the gun show.
>
> But we don't tag him with ideological murder. Do we only do
> that to people whose religion we don't respect or we fear?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim_City,_Oklahoma
>
> Kris

He's an extremist in his religious reviews, just like some Christians
who kill abortion doctors. Yes, they have other problems but they
are still extreme in their religious views. People also bring their
own interpretations to a religion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/us/07muslim.html

It was Major Hasan, though, who increasingly felt let down by the
military, and deeply conflicted by his religion, said those who knew
him through the mosque. Duane Reasoner Jr., an 18-year-old substitute
teacher whose parents worked at Fort Hood, said Major Hassan was told
he would be sent to Afghanistan on Nov. 28, and he did not like it.

"He said he should quit the Army," Mr. Reasoner said. "In the Koran,
you're not supposed to have alliances with Jews or Christian or
others, and if you are killed in the military fighting against
Muslims, you will go to hell."

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As I read that, I wondered why he didn't quit the Army?

He certainly knew the strings to pull. A rational
person would have, even if they held "extreme" religious
views.

I don't think there's one single reason he did this, except
for his own weakness and failures.

Kris

It doesn't even make sense. He must have been really depressed, with
attendant scrambled thinking.

Peach

Yup. I'm wondering about increasing anger, that fomented
in his lonely life. Remember, he even talked to one of his
religious leaders about finding a wife.....something he'd never
been able to do.

There's plenty of single women (civilians and military)
available to officers. The only ones I never knew to have
a relationship, were the closeted gays.

Kris

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