Re: 2-week-old Ariz. girl dies in dog attack


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Hey TD,

officers found the infant in the living room with bite wounds on her
head. The baby was pronounced dead at the scene.

The dog, a chow, was quarantined.

In 35 years of working with animals, I've known maybe 5 full-blooded
chows that weren't dangerous. Mix them with just about any other
breed
and you end up with a great dog,

I couldn't agree more about chows. One of the reasons I disagree with
breed banning. Once all the pit bulls are out-lawed, the chow is a
perfect choice for the low-lives to pick up on as a replacement,
unfortunately.

I'm surprised the low-lifes aren't already stocking up on chows,
frankly.
I think it's because they're too pretty. Pits make crappy guard-dogs.
They're genetically predisposed to adore humans. If you get one that's
not
right in the first place, more willing to bite a human, and work your
ass
off, you can end up with a dangerous dog, but it's still going to be
erratic as hell. You'd never know if your psychotic pit was going to
eat
someone or try to crawl into their lap. Chows, though, are genetically
predisposed to distrust any human that they aren't bonded to, and
they're
genetically predisposed to only bond to one human at a time. So
they're a
lot more dangerous than pit bulls, and they make perfect killing guard
machines (which is what they were originally bred to do). But they
don't
have that musular tuff look, and I'm guessing that's why the low-lifes
don't notice them.

The only thing I disagree with you on is a mix. As cute as some of
those
puppies are, I personally just can't get past my aversion to a
*chow*/anything.

I don't even think about puppies. Working in shelters for so many
years
makes me look at puppies and see piles of dead dogs. Every live puppy
that
is carried into a shelter means at least one dead good dog. People are
always willing to adopt puppies but rarely willing to adopt adult
dogs.
So
the cuteness factor doesn't cross my mind.

What I've seen over the decades is that when you have a dog that's
half-chow/half-whatever-else, you have a dog that doesn't have the
psychotic distrust of strangers and does have the strong tendency to
bond
very tightly. Chow mixes aren't particularly good guard dogs, but they
have an enormous love for their people, and they're very stable
animals.
A
bit of a bitch to groom though, with all that long thick double-coated
hair.

Just me, I guess. But I figure why get a 'chow/lab' when I could get a
'lab/golden' or 'lab/shepherd', ya know.

When you walk into a shelter, and the dog (not puppy) that speaks to
your
heart is a +5-year-old 95-pound ball of matted fur that mostly looks
like
a newfoundland but has a purple tongue... you're not going to want to
bother looking at the husky/lab or the golden/shepherd on each side of
him. When you take the puppy factor out of the decision, your options
open
enormously, and at that point, a chow mix is a good critter to be
looking
at. Because whatever genetic factor is in the chow breed that makes
them
so dangerous simply isn't dominant. It's totally diluted by almost any
other breed. I've seen that over and over again. Like I said, in over
three decades of working with dogs, I've known maybe 5 full-blooded
chows
that weren't dangerous. But in the same amount of time, the only chow
mixes I recall that were dangerous were one chow/pit mix and one
chow/jindo mix.

I'm happy that Chihuahuas are so little, because next to chows, they
come
in second for me in the *nasty* dept. If they had more size to them,
they
could really do some damage.

The worst bite I ever took (and I've been bitten by a lot of dogs,
especially in the early years when being bitten was seen as part of
the
job and we didn't work very hard to avoid it) was from a chihuahua.
Breeders have done a lot to fix their temperments over the last few
decades, but they are truly nutsoid dogs.

Davi


I'm with you on the adult/adopt. Since my murphy died, we've only
gotten
adult adopts. My gracie was *listed* as a boxer/german shepherd mix.
But
anyone with half a brain can see she's a rottie mix. I'm sure they
didn't
say that because she'd have been harder to adopt from a high kill
shelter
that was sponsoring her. She's such a great dog, and so bonded to me.
Where ever I am, you'll find her. If I go next door, to my daughters
house, she sits in the window and watches the front door there, until I
emerge and come back home. People always ask 'if she's *friendly*'
prior
to approaching me though. Something they seldom did with my
happy-looking
lab mix, murphy.

Now my merlin, catahoula leopard dog rescue/adult again, people are
mostly
curious about. On our road, he's referred to as 'that pretty dog'.
;-)
He stands 27 inches to his shoulders, and it was his *goofy* expression
that attracted me to him.

I'd like to find myself a scruffy little dog to join the crew, but most
of
them available around here are chihuahuas or mixes of chi's. Just
don't
like them. To me, they've always seemed like really big rats with
really
big, sharp teeth. And not *nice* rats either. More like those in that
movie long ago, 'Rats'. From the book, Ratmans Notebooks, I think it
was.


td


TD, what you need is a miniature dachshund! Small without the chihuahua
shakiness and snippiness. Long hairs can be cute scruffy little dogs.
Then again, you know I'm partial.

Hester Mofet


Our very first grand-puppy was a miniature dachshund, Brandy, may she RIP.
She lived to be 17 before she had to be *sent* across the Rainbow Bridge.
Thanks for reminding me about doxies. Although I've never actually seen one
in person, the pictures I've seen of the wire-haired doxies are just
adorable. I love that scruffy look in a dog. My sister has a little
scruffy looking dog she rescued, in fact she named him scruffy. He's the
funniest little thing, loves to watch TV. If you put Animal Planet on for
him, he'll sit there just watching and barking at all the animals. None of
my dogs have ever watched TV for more than a minute or two at a time. But
Scruffy will watch and watch. He's especially *bothered* by crocodiles. (I
know that's not spelled right, but I just can't figure it out! LOL) He
just goes into a frenzy barking at the crocs. Sis said 'the first time
scruffy saw TV, he'd run behind the set, to see where those animals were.'
Eventually he simply came to accept he'd never figure out where the animals
were and how they got in and out of the *box*. ;-)

td


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